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Thighhighs are stockings or socks, as is clearly stated in the wiki, real life usage, and Bartleby's dictionary: http://www.bartleby.com/61/49/T0164950.html
Here's a great example of why this is wrong: post #402376 shows thigh boots over pantyhose, but the implication nonsensically adds thighhighs.
Can we remove the implication, please?
Updated by jxh2154
I have to disagree. If they produced the same visual effect, you would not be able to tell them apart. For the most part, that's not the case (depending, of course, on the art style).
The visual effect is similar, but with a clear distinction, just as there is a clear distinction between a swimsuit made of cloth and a swimsuit made of body paint (post #256412).
Don't want boots? Search thighhighs -thigh_boots. Problem solved.
As Fencedude said, they provide the same visual effect. I've seen many images where I know the character is wearing thigh_boots, but the image is simply tagged thighhighs because the character's feet aren't depicted. The effect though is the same, and if I didn't know that they were thigh_boots, I'd probably have thought they were stockings. I'd say a good example of this is hatsune_miku in her normal outfit. Example: post #395643.
Aside from both creating zettai ryouiki if the character is not wearing pantyhoses, I don't think they provide the same visual effect. They are also very distinctly different garments.
And in all honesty, if we are basing it off of this 'it provides the same visual effect' argument, we should add a bunch of implications for all sorts of different hats to just hats, all sorts of different sleeves to just sleeves, all sorts of different swimsuits to just swimsuit... etc. Because they all provide the same visual effect of the character wearing something that covers some specific body part, and thus shouldn't be differentiated.
And the argument of Miku; this is where community tagging comes in. Someone can be wrong, but the community can fix it. It's not like once someone writes one tag and its carved in stone and etched with blood so it cannot be changed forever or something like that...
Searching thighhighs -thigh_boots is not a complete solution because it also eliminates images that have both thighhighs *and* thigh boots.
Personally I don't care if everything stays as it is or not. But I suppose the proper solution would be to have both thighhighs and thigh_boots implicate some common tag. Ideally it'd be thigh_socks->thighhighs and thigh_boots->thighhighs, but thighhighs is so commonly used for socks that people would keep using it instead.
I can't come up with a good alternative tag name though.
But cleaning up the thighhighs tag after this change would be a major chore.
chiisana said:
And in all honesty, if we are basing it off of this 'it provides the same visual effect' argument, we should add a bunch of implications for all sorts of different hats to just hats, all sorts of different sleeves to just sleeves, all sorts of different swimsuits to just swimsuit... etc. Because they all provide the same visual effect of the character wearing something that covers some specific body part, and thus shouldn't be differentiated.
As far as I'm aware most types of swimsuits do implicate swimsuit, most if not all types of hats do implicate hat, and I'm not sure on sleeves. Not all sleeves generate the same visual effect though, so I think that's kind of comparing apples and oranges.
chiisana said:
And the argument of Miku; this is where community tagging comes in. Someone can be wrong, but the community can fix it. It's not like once someone writes one tag and its carved in stone and etched with blood so it cannot be changed forever or something like that...
I'm just saying it's a good example of how they can be indistinguishable. There are 103 images tagged both Hatsune_Miku Thigh_boots, yet there are 5524 tagged Hatsune_Miku. Even if only 25% of those images depict her in her standard outfit with thigh_boots, that's 1278 images of her with thigh_boots simply tagged as thighhighs or not tagged at all.
Just looking through the thigh_boots tag, there really is 2 basic types of thigh_boots. Those that clearly look like boots, and those that if you put your hand over the foot area you would truly have trouble distinguishing between a thighhigh stocking/sock. Examples: post #377176, post #192388, post #356636 , post #354667. I would argue that those that are indistinguishable are in the majority.
