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[REJECTED] Tag implication: fertilization -> impregnation

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Per tag descriptions, all fertilization is also impregnation, and there should be no fertilization -impregnation.

However, one potential issue with this is IVF, species that lay eggs unfertilized, etc. - fertilization not taking place within a womb or shown outside this context, e.g. post #2127347.

Thoughts?

EDIT: The tag implication fertilization -> impregnation (forum #146914) has been rejected by @Hillside_Moose.

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Pregnant

1. (of a woman or female animal) having a child or young developing in the uterus.
Fertilize

1. cause (an egg, female animal, or plant) to develop a new individual by introducing male reproductive material.

Pregnant is clearly a subset and not a superset of fertilize in the traditional sense.

But, I can envision a few scenarios where a woman or female animal can be pregant but not be fertilized by the above definition. One for example would be IPS cells where there is no male donor. Another is when a monster's young gets placed into a woman's womb, such as the alien from Prometheus.

However, the above can be made moot if we want to just disregard all that, in which case my vote would be for pregnant -> fertilization.

BrokenEagle98 said:

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Pregnant

1. (of a woman or female animal) having a child or young developing in the uterus.
Fertilize

1. cause (an egg, female animal, or plant) to develop a new individual by introducing male reproductive material.

Pregnant is clearly a subset and not a superset of fertilize in the traditional sense.

But, I can envision a few scenarios where a woman or female animal can be pregant but not be fertilized by the above definition. One for example would be IPS cells where there is no male donor. Another is when a monster's young gets placed into a woman's womb, such as the alien from Prometheus.

However, the above can be made moot if we want to just disregard all that, in which case my vote would be for pregnant -> fertilization.

I think you might be confusing pregnant with impregnation?

chinatsu said:

Well, why not the entry for impregnation?

To be quite honest my mind glazed right over that fact, did a loop-de-loop, and arrived at the answer 42.

impregnation:

1. The act of making pregnant; fertilization.

Source: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/impregnation

Taking a proper look now though, I'm not sure why both tags are needed. It seems like the only thing the impregnation tag has that the fertilization tag doesn't is the mystical art of feminine clairvoyancy. Maybe we could have a tag for that instead... people making authoritative remarks for which they could have no actual knowledge about, and are basically talking out of their you know what.

Looked up impregnation on the Merriam-Webster dictionary and it pretty much says the same thing as Wikitionary.

2 : to make pregnant : fertilize

Maybe an alias from impregnation to fertilization would work?

I think there is a distinction to be drawn between intercourse with conception and a depictions of the fertilization of an egg by sperm. But I think that the latter should just have a specific tag, something like, fertilization_diagram that is distinct form just sex.

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...which, reading fertilization appears to be covered by that tag.

A cross-section shot of sperm cells actually approaching the ovum to fertilize it and transform it into a zygote cell

I suggest to alias or mass-update of fertilization to fertilization_diagram, fertilization_close-up, cellular_fertilization, something...I am partial to the last of those.

And I don't think it should imply impregnation. I could imagine for instance, a depiction of a sex ed presentation with blushing students but no sex.

Also whatever tag should have an alias of the British fertilisation as alternate spelling.

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