Yande.re as source

I'm not going to point any fingers, but I've come across several posts that list yande.re as their source and there are some users who are repeat offenders.

Why is this bad? Because yande.re is a site similar to Danbooru where art is posted from other places to make them more accessible to a western audience. They are not uploaded by the artists themselves. What's even worse is that yande.re doesn't anywhere near enforce the same quality that Danbooru does and more often than not there's no source link to the original or any credit given to the author. As such yande.re really ought to be banned as a source for art posted to Danbooru and approving such posts is either a lapse in judgement or just laziness. If there is a source on yande.re then it's easy enough to update the source link, but if there is none then the post is basically sourceless and the link to yande.re just makes it looks like there's a source at first glance.

I just now found a post that sourced yande.re and luckily this one actually in turn sourced a twitter post. So I updated the Danbooru post to source the twitter post and included the commentary. When I checked the uploader I found that this person had uploaded several art pieces from yande.re, some of which lacked further sourcing there.

I don't want to point fingers unless it's requested of me by a moderator, but I think something should be done about it.

Kapten-N said:
As such yande.re really ought to be banned as a source for art posted to Danbooru and approving such posts is either a lapse in judgement or just laziness.

What about the users who post their own scans or private works on yande.re first (there's several of them)? Should we ban those too? What about pictures for which the only source is yande.re (of which there is a whole host according to saucenao)?

I can understand telling users to be more careful what source they use if they're uploading from yande.re, but banning something altogether makes no sense. There's plenty of us that reupload scans or private works from yande.re for which the source is either not publicly available, or exhentai, which in turn half the time is a repost from chinese sites. Sometimes people even upload first on yande.re and then on exhentai, for maximum internet points.
A lot of the results under source:*yande.re* age:<1w are either official/key art for which there is no valid source or artbook scans with no easily available source. Should we just avoid uploading these simply because no better source can be found?

I'd rather have a post that I can fix the source of if it's available, than have no post at all, especially since yande.re is not gelbooru - I don't know where your claims of low quality come from but a lot of their enforced rules are the same as us, and they put original sourcing on the same level.

As a final note: even danbooru users often prefer putting the artbook title as source instead of the exhentai link. You'll find thousands of such examples on this site.

Okay, banning is a bit much. But I think it's better to have no source than to source a yande.re post that has no source, especially if it's official art.

nonamethanks said:

As a final note: even danbooru users often prefer putting the artbook title as source instead of the exhentai link. You'll find thousands of such examples on this site.

If it's from an artbook then I do think that the title of the artbook is good for source, or perhaps a link to where the artbook is sold or listed. But in most cases yande.re is not a proper source and linking to it is just a way to fill the source field so that it isn't empty. A source link is meant to give credit to the artist and/or let people find more art from the same source, which is why yande.re is a bad source, because yande.re is not pixiv, nicovideo or DeviantArt.

nonamethanks said:

I don't know where your claims of low quality come from but a lot of their enforced rules are the same as us, and they put original sourcing on the same level.

I didn't mean the art is low quality. I just find that there are way too many unsourced posts there with no credit given to the artist.

Kapten-N said:

A source link is meant to give credit to the artist and/or let people find more art from the same source

A source link is meant to denote where a post's file originally came from. Giving credit to the artist and/or letting people find more art from the same source is just a happy side effect. If a post is a scan that was originally uploaded to yande.re, then users who want to find more from the same artist can just check their artist entry on Danbooru.

A yandere source is better than no source for scans. The source field is as much a vehicle for users to find more of the same as it is to credit artists, and yandere is a primary source for original scans by users such as twin, drop, and demon to name a few.

The main and probably BEST reason to keep them as Yande.re/Exhentai/whatever when the original source isn't known is that many times users upload the sample size from these sites and not the full size. Without knowing where an image came from in such cases, it's impossible to determine whether Danbooru has the original image or just a degraded resampling of that image.