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iridescent_slime said:
Just out of curiosity, could you give us an example of what you call "purple", then? You tagged post #1940562 as maroon hair and I don't know what could be more purple than that.
post #2685223 is typical purple to me.
If I can't call post #1940562 maroon, I'd rather call it red than purple.
With some of the hair colour tags debated in this topic becoming unused due to the discussion in topic #14522 I think further action should be talked about here about other subjective tags previously mentioned.
From forum #146600, I don't see much reason why lavender hair should be called as such since, much like chocolate hair to dark brown hair, I think it could be expanded to light purple hair.
On the topic of hair colour combinations I wouldn't be against tagging them with the subset hair colours like auburn hair (which I thought shouldn't have been nuked) to brown and red hair, treating aqua hair the same way, or just creating new tags like brown-red hair.
kiyah123 said:
With some of the hair colour tags debated in this topic becoming unused due to the discussion in topic #14522 I think further action should be talked about here about other subjective tags previously mentioned.
From forum #146600, I don't see much reason why lavender hair should be called as such since, much like chocolate hair to dark brown hair, I think it could be expanded to light purple hair.
On the topic of hair colour combinations I wouldn't be against tagging them with the subset hair colours like auburn hair (which I thought shouldn't have been nuked) to brown and red hair, treating aqua hair the same way, or just creating new tags like brown-red hair.
I think one of the reasons people want only the base colours and a few extra (silver and aqua for example) is that the name of the other shades are not well known, before someone first mentioned auburn hair in one of these threads I had no idea that word even existed, I barely knew about maroon hair either. While this may be a bit beacuse english isn't my first language I still think it's better to keep to tags with well-known names where the colour can be told from the tag name alone without having to look it up.
skylightcrystal said:
Auburn is a very well established name for a (of course naturally occurring) hair colour but the word is rarely used for anything else, in much the same way as with blond(e).
Huh you learn something new everyday. Is it the same case with platinum blonde which again I've never heard of outside this site?
Unbreakable said:
Huh you learn something new everyday. Is it the same case with platinum blonde which again I've never heard of outside this site?
I'd imagine most English speakers would have an idea what platinum blonde was, yes, but it's just one of several shades of blonde and we don't have tags for any others (eg. ash blonde, champagne blonde, strawberry blonde) so I'm not really sure why we have one for that one.
Platinum blonde seems to vary a lot in danbooru and even from a quick Google search its hard to see the difference from it and white hair, silver hair or light blonde hair. But yes, we don't have the other shades of blonde, and I'd think the light/dark blonde hair tags could cover them.
skylightcrystal said:
I'd imagine most English speakers would have an idea what platinum blonde was, yes, but it's just one of several shades of blonde and we don't have tags for any others (eg. ash blonde, champagne blonde, strawberry blonde) so I'm not really sure why we have one for that one.
I think it would get utterly ridiculous if we were to break down hair colors down to super specific names of the spectrum. Even if we just talk about shades of natural hair colors like brown or blonde, how many would there have to be identified to satisfy everyone? How would taggers not familiar with every possible variant of blonde know to use colors like platinum blonde, ash blonde, strawberry blonde and the like? I never even heard of ash blonde until now, so I would never have known to use it in the first place. If we extend it to unnatural colors like pink-purple shades (magenta, cerise, mulberry, puce, etc) or yellow-green shades (chartreuse, lime, mint, etc), you pretty much have a mess that you didn't need in the first place.
The current system of using the base colors is acceptable to me, although maybe some discussion about light hair colors could be considered since we have light brown and lavender in use after previous discussions. Likewise, silver is treated as either a light grey or a shiny white.
If we're debating hair color again, i never saw a solid reason for silver hair existing, other than it's a common term.
It's just light grey hair... and white in some cases.
keonas said:
If we're debating hair color again, i never saw a solid reason for silver hair existing, other than it's a common term.
It's just light grey hair... and white in some cases.
I use it for hair that is grey but shiny, if the grey hair is not shiny I just use grey instead.
Unbreakable said:
I think one of the reasons people want only the base colours and a few extra (silver and aqua for example) is that the name of the other shades are not well known, before someone first mentioned auburn hair in one of these threads I had no idea that word even existed, I barely knew about maroon hair either.
Auburn, as with blonde and brunette, is a color word that applies almost exclusively to hair. You won't see it used in other contexts.
Maroon is just a dark brownish shade of red. It's not a particularly common word, even for hair, and using it in a tag just opens the gates for using other color words like cerulean or vermilion.
Unbreakable said:
I use it for hair that is grey but shiny, if the grey hair is not shiny I just use grey instead.
It seems strange to have a tag that merely replaces grey_hair + shiny_hair, though. There's no tag like this for other hues.
I strongly suspect that the real reason we tag hair as silver is that "grey hair" connotes old age, and nobody wants to tag their favorite lolis with a term that is associated with the elderly.
iridescent_slime said:
I strongly suspect that the real reason we tag hair as silver is that "grey hair" connotes old age, and nobody wants to tag their favorite lolis with a term that is associated with the elderly.
I actually sometimes hesitate to tag non-elderly characters with grey hair because it feels weird so it's probably as you say.
iridescent_slime said:
Auburn, as with blonde and brunette, is a color word that applies almost exclusively to hair. You won't see it used in other contexts.
Maroon is just a dark brownish shade of red. It's not a particularly common word, even for hair, and using it in a tag just opens the gates for using other color words like cerulean or vermilion.
Which is why I want to make tags like brown-red hair which at least acknowledges this type of colours without the exotic names. Either this or we say to use the two (or more) hair colour tags the hue seems to be made of.
iridescent_slime said:
It seems strange to have a tag that merely replaces grey_hair + shiny_hair, though. There's no tag like this for other hues.
Honestly never thought of the usefullness of silver hair before. Perhaps we could still keep it for hair with a metallic gradient to it like in post #3109281, though I see it overlapping a lot with shiny grey hair.
kiyah123 said:
Which is why I want to make tags like brown-red hair which at least acknowledges this type of colours without the exotic names. Either this or we say to use the two (or more) hair colour tags the hue seems to be made of.
Would a tag like brown-red_hair implicate both brown_hair and red_hair since it essentially covers both colors, or would it be treated as its own individual tag?
fossilnix said:
If we have a red-brown_hair tag, I think it should be its own tag and cover the space between the colors.
I suppose. We'd have to cover word swap aliases like this to avoid redundancy:
alias red-brown_hair -> brown-red_hair OR
alias brown-red_hair -> red-brown_hair
It'd depend on how we want to order the colors, whether by the rainbow spectrum first, or by natural colors followed by ROY G BIV colors.
Benit149 said:
I suppose. We'd have to cover word swap aliases like this to avoid redundancy:
alias red-brown_hair -> brown-red_hair OR
alias brown-red_hair -> red-brown_hairIt'd depend on how we want to order the colors, whether by the rainbow spectrum first, or by natural colors followed by ROY G BIV colors.
Going with what I personally thinks sounds best it's red-brown hair, it just rolls of the tongue better.
