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Artist alias request thread

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nonamethanks

mass update isabelle_bosworth -> mochii

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Main/current name of this artist. I had changed it half a year ago when it was at 4 posts but apparently @chinatsu decided to change it back with no apparent reason today when it was at several dozen posts, which broke saved searches for the artist.

Her real name only appears in an abandoned artstation account, she switched to using "mochii" in all her other accounts. In fact, other than in her email used for commission, that name appears nowhere else - besides that email in her description it's not even mentioned once in her twitter.

Edit: actually since it's just been one day I'm just going to change it back manually and prevent other people from having a not so nice surprise with saved searches. Feel free to make a mass update request to revert it, but to just change it out of the blue for an artist with ~60 posts like that is pure nonsense, especially since it's not even evident whether it's a correct change.

EDIT: The bulk update request #1546 (forum #144696) has been rejected by @nonamethanks.

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BrokenEagle98
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Would be really nice if we could establish to wait for an approved BUR request because changing an artist names without one tempers with at least saved searches (doesn't apply to nonamethanks here).
I apology for hijacking this topic for tis, but I think a bit more patience is needed with artists.

I would even say that moderators sould be given the right to approve BURs as well. Especially because @EB seems well versed for that stuff.

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wet ass pussy

@nonamethanks said:

mass update isabelle_bosworth -> mochii

Something like this shouldn't be a request. It can be brought up as a point to discuss but a task this small should be done manually. This should take a builder about a minute. For tags with say, over 200 post, then it's worth something like an alias.

Main/current name of this artist.

Yet not their actual name. The actual name is known, and it's a good rule of thumb to use actual names when available. Their name can be found at both their Twitter page and their ArtStation account, a site considered a professional/resume site. (If you contend that their private or professional life is risked by using then name then you should consider they use the name on a site to promote one's art to potential employers.)

There isn't a policy for using names or commonly used pen names.

See topic #8245, forum #117802

I had changed it half a year ago when it was at 4 posts but apparently @chinatsu decided to change it back with no apparent reason today when it was at several dozen posts, which broke saved searches for the artist.

The reason is pretty apparent, pretending it isn't is count-constructive hyperbole. Searches being broken are not a reason to name an artist a particular way; tags are frequently changed without regard to them breaking searches.

Her real name only appears in an abandoned artstation account

It's as "abandoned" as the Twitch, which wouldn't even disqualify it... Neither are deactivated and it doesn't mean they aren't in use just for not having a post in half a year. The number of occurrences of the name also doesn't matter, it's whether it does appear.

she switched to using "mochii" in all her other accounts.

"Switched," or began as a public artist. The artist entry was first made 7 months ago, they didn't "switch" at anytime, they are using two names contemporaneously—their actual name and a pen name.

In fact, other than in her email used for commission, that name appears nowhere else - besides that email in her description it's not even mentioned once in her twitter.

This doesn't further make your point, it just shows the two prominent displays of their actual name. And people don't generally have a need to post about their name on Twitter, it is in their bio however.

Edit: actually since it's just been one day I'm just going to change it back manually and prevent other people from having a not so nice surprise with saved searches.

Again, saved searches isn't a reason for a name to be a particular way. You could have requested an alias if you saw it fit. But for such a low-count tag that isn't needed at all.

Feel free to make a mass update request to revert it, but to just change it out of the blue for an artist with ~60 posts like that is pure nonsense, especially since it's not even evident whether it's a correct change.

Since when is 60 posts that significant?

I followed precedent and a widely shared preference. It's you who initially edited @Provence's change without reason, yet here you are turning this into a diktat by myself. I messaged you on Discord asking why you changed it back and was completely ignored despite you actively posting at the time.

The change is nothing out of the blue or pure nonsense, it's actually very appropriate. Just changing it back and trying to provoke an edit war between builders is again just not productive or appropriate. I really don't think exaggerations add to the discussion, especially when changes such as what I made are routinely done and without comment.

Edit: Also There was no reason to create artist #166284. I deleted that and undeleted artist #156616. When you change an artist name you're supposed to edit the name on the artist entry and then change the posts over, not create an additional artist.

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chinatsu said:

Something like this shouldn't be a request. It can be brought up as a point to discuss but a task this small should be done manually. This should take a builder about a minute. For tags with say, over 200 post, then it's worth something like an alias.

The reason is pretty apparent, pretending it isn't is count-constructive hyperbole. Searches being broken are not a reason to name an artist a particular way; tags are frequently changed without regard to them breaking searches.

Artists are the most searched items on Danbooru. A saved search is created even with only a few tags.
Mochi is a pretty popular artist with over 60 posts here. To change their name without any hint or reason via the backdoor leads people into nirvana. I for example know where I have to look but it's not reasonable to look everytime your artists up and if they changed.
Searches aren't broken because tags are normally changed via a mass update or an alias. Both actions do fix saved searches. Changing something manually does NOT.

I agree that in the past it was necessary to process that manually but that was the exception because of the workload of pending bulk update requests. I highly recommend first bumping a request.
That's mostly aimed at the requests on top of this page where artists with over 150 posts were changed just like that.

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nonamethanks

chinatsu said:
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Yeah that's nice and all, but had you bothered to shoot me a DMail instead of using a third party like discord, I would've told you that I changed it in the first place for a reason, after having read her opinions on the matter elsewhere.
I actually went back and checked, and you pinged me once in the middle of the night and then went ahead and immediately changed the artist.

In fact yesterday I messaged the artist just to make sure again and this was her reply: https://i.imgur.com/1Whx6iJ.png

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user 525419

create alias ayyasap -> ayya_saparniyazova

Link to request

Artist signs their work with that name.
While the prior was eliminated via a manual bulk update (i.e. no BUR was requested) the tag still gets populated ( for example post #3079791 (Q) where you see how she sign their art, too).

To avoid further confusion an alias should be created.

EDIT: The bulk update request #1554 (forum #144946) has been approved by @Hillside_Moose.

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