Wiki Requests

BrokenEagle98 said:

I haven't been tagging individual colors for multicolored clothing. One primary reason is that it would pollute the instances of solid colors.

Yeah, it was your first sentence that confused me, I see what you mean now.

The top and bottom are handled separately, and if both are the same (or mostly the same), then it gets tagged with *_bikini. Otherwise it gets tagged mismatched_bikini + *_bikini_top + *_bikini_bottom

I wouldn't... when people search for a pattern, they want to see a prevalence of that pattern and not just trimming. I did however leave the polka dot tag since the vest has that pattern.

That makes more sense overall but it still made me hesitate a little so I figured I'd ask, I'll keep it in mind for the future.

Edited the white bikini wiki to some degree.
I really don't think that striped bikinis should have that tag since it would only pollute the white bikini search since most striped bikinis have white in them.

On another note:
sleeves past wrists and hands in sleeves...
Are those tags mutually exclusive? Because it seems kinda weird to use sleeves past wrists when the hands are already fully covered in the sleeves.

Chiera said:

Edited the white bikini wiki to some degree.
I really don't think that striped bikinis should have that tag since it would only pollute the white bikini search since most striped bikinis have white in them.

I don't add striped colors if they are null colors, i.e. white, black, grey, similar to multicolored.

An exception is if only null colors are used, where I'll only add the darkest color.

evazion said:

Updated garter belt and garter straps to make the warning stronger.

Hello, just found out about this change from a couple of months ago because Chiera was busy cleaning it up and
i Completely disagree with it.

Except for the case where the straps are build into the belt, these are 2 visually distinct pieces of clothing that have appeared in a wide mix of forms on this site.
Why exactly should we exclude the straps tag if a belt is present somewhere on the screen?

Not to mention the very large number of images where only 1 character is wearing a belt+straps combination and another is wearing just straps (visibly).
Really hard to find examples for this now that the straps tag was removed from images btw.

keonas said:

Not to mention the very large number of images where only 1 character is wearing a belt+straps combination and another is wearing just straps (visibly).
Really hard to find examples for this now that the straps tag was removed from images btw.

Tag usage seems pretty obvious here. If one character is wearing a garter belt, and the other only has straps showing, you use both tags. It's like flat_chest large_breasts; you're not supposed to use both tags for the same person, but there has never been a rule that only one of these tags may apply on a per-image basis.

iridescent_slime said:

Tag usage seems pretty obvious here. If one character is wearing a garter belt, and the other only has straps showing, you use both tags. It's like flat_chest large_breasts; you're not supposed to use both tags for the same person, but there has never been a rule that only one of these tags may apply on a per-image basis.

Not really the point of that example but you are right.
It does go against the description but, of course, people tag per character not image overall, as you mentioned.

BrokenEagle98 said:

I don't add striped colors if they are null colors, i.e. white, black, grey, similar to multicolored.

An exception is if only null colors are used, where I'll only add the darkest color.

So we should tag a striped bikini with red-white-blue striped with red bikini + blue bikini or multicolored bikini?
And a bikini with purple and white stripes with purple bikini?

(The same question applies to every striped attire, like red-white striped legwear, too)

Chiera said:

So we should tag a striped bikini with red-white-blue striped with red bikini + blue bikini or multicolored bikini?
And a bikini with purple and white stripes with purple bikini?

(The same question applies to every striped attire, like red-white striped legwear, too)

Chiera said:

So we should tag a striped bikini with red-white-blue striped with red bikini + blue bikini or multicolored bikini?

If I tag something multicolored, I usually don't tag the individual colors. An exception would be if one color comprises > 50% of the object, and I would only tag that prevalent color.

And a bikini with purple and white stripes with purple bikini?

Yes...

I have a question regarding the looking_to_the_side tag because I notice two kinds of usage but the wiki only describes one.

1. When the character is just gazing to the side, body is oriented to the side: post #2840571, post #2839511

2. When the character's body is oriented in any direction, the eyes/head gazing to the side (also involves looking_at_viewer: post #2840521, post #2840463, post #2841813.

The 2nd option is much more populated, though.

Chiera said:

I have a question regarding the looking_to_the_side tag because I notice two kinds of usage but the wiki only describes one.

1. When the character is just gazing to the side, body is oriented to the side: post #2840571, post #2839511

2. When the character's body is oriented in any direction, the eyes/head gazing to the side (also involves looking_at_viewer: post #2840521, post #2840463, post #2841813.

The 2nd option is much more populated, though.

The first one is incorrect - it's for looking to the side from the character's perspective, not from ours.

The wiki for background is so vague that it could be construed to mean every image on the site. If there's a compelling reason for keeping the tag, a narrower and more rigorous wiki definition is direly needed. Lately it seems to be used as a backup scenery tag, though, so I'm leaning toward simply nuking it.

I've never used it, and I don't see a reason for it in its simple form, so I'd be for nuking it.

I'm for nuking it, too. Looks unhelpful, but still: @Tomzai

On other sites background means it has the exact proportions to fit in a common screen/tablet. Would that be viable on Danbooru to?

ion288 said:

On other sites background means it has the exact proportions to fit in a common screen/tablet. Would that be viable on Danbooru to?

If you're talking about a desktop background it's sorted under the wallpaper tag. The background tag is the more literal photo concept instead of specific proportions.

Not really a request, but made the usage of armpits and armpit peek more clear, since both tags shouldn't be used together.

I was mentioned huh?

I made the background tag to be a general tag for background tags (stiped_background, heart_background, orange_background ect).
So it's like what panties tag is for white/red/blue(and so on) -panties. I'm not too familiar with tags and what you call them but i guess the word i'm looking for here is parent tag.

The wiki may be badly worded but it's best i could come up with at the time. Sorry if it has caused misunderstanding with tag usage.
I think it should be allowed to exist.

@iridescent_slime @Chiera

The problem is that every image has some kind of background, either simple or elaborate, so every image would be tagged background, making the tag useless. For the same reason, we don’t tag things like nose, ears, eyes and hair unless they’re a focal point of the image, because they would be tagged on almost every post with some kind of character in it. Instead we have no_nose,no_ears, no_eyes and bald (maybe with alternate_hairstyle) for the exceptions.

no_background wouldn’t make any sense either because it could be covered by white_background, black_background, transparent_background or at least simple_background.

From some recent posts, I actually thought that background would mean that an image is used as a background somewhere, like an anime, or maybe a child post that has all the foreground characters removed. In that case, the tag would be actually useful, but it would definitely need a proper wiki entry.

So it seems the concensus is to nuke it?
If yes, I'll do it later..

Tomzai said:

I made the background tag to be a general tag for background tags (stiped_background, heart_background, orange_background ect).
So it's like what panties tag is for white/red/blue(and so on) -panties. I'm not too familiar with tags and what you call them but i guess the word i'm looking for here is parent tag.

Background has been used for purposes other than what you describe for far longer than you or I have had an account here, though. For instance, post #200868 was tagged nine years ago. When you create a wiki definition, it's important to take into account the way the tag is actually used. In this case, the tag has been used for pretty much everything.

Also, I don't see the purpose of having an umbrella tag for the many *_background tags when we already have Tag Group:Backgrounds.