Tagging requirement

Ye. I hate implicit rules. I'd highly prefer a solid a rule rather than the extremely vague "tag your uploads better". I support the OP as in, with a huge backlog, it might become really tedious to do 10+ general (non-auto generated) tags. That's what the tag "tagme" should be for. So that people with infinite time on their hands can go around tagging everything until they're satisfied.

If I had infinite time, I definitely wouldn't be spending it tagging stuff. I think it's a damn chore, which is why I always try to do it well the first time.

"Leaving it to others" is really a sign of petulant laziness IMO. tagme should be used, but not as a "I don't have time" or "I don't care enough" excuse, but rather a "I don't know everything to tag so I'll leave it to others".

But anyways -- just as long as the new uploads are tagged well, I'd say the old uploads aren't that important (as most probably won't be digging through there). If you start from the very top and work your way down, there are tons of images that would need tagme. But the demand for these are low.

toshiya4 said:

Ye. I hate implicit rules. I'd highly prefer a solid a rule rather than the extremely vague "tag your uploads better". I support the OP as in, with a huge backlog, it might become really tedious to do 10+ general (non-auto generated) tags. That's what the tag "tagme" should be for. So that people with infinite time on their hands can go around tagging everything until they're satisfied.

That kinda feels like a punch in the face for me.
I didn't reduce this tag to zero, so that it can get re-populated again because you think that there are people who should tag posts. That is lazy tagging if your goal is to leave the work for others.
The tagme tag should be used for learning in my opinion. Because if you use tagme, then you indirectly ask how tags should be used. That being said, I consider it as misuse of the tag, when the tagme user is not learning how to tag better after some months and stays by 15-25 tags without improvement.

Provence said:
That kinda feels like a punch in the face for me.

Wait. There's no hostility involved here. I was only expressing how I feel about rules in general.

>That is lazy tagging if your goal is to leave the work for others.
I understand what you mean by this. Again, if you don't want this then you have to make rules regarding tagging stricter and clearer (such as, "you may not post if you don't want to tag" and minimum requirements).

Edit: Current minimum tagging guideline is "Artist. Character. Copyright. Source. Rating. Spoilers.". According to wiki.

toshiya4 said:

Edit: Current minimum tagging guideline is "Artist. Character. Copyright. Source. Rating. Spoilers.". According to wiki.

Yes.
And that is too low.
Even for a blank page you can add this:
no_humans artist copyright simple_background color_background
Those are already five tags.
If you have some characters, there is automatically more to add. So I suggest that the lowest threshold is the whole level 0 tag checklist howto:tag_checklist.
That is way more than the basics artist copyright character rating and source . I mean, this is already well defined what level 0 means.

I did also remove some feedbacks for certain users, because they do now fit this threshold or did always fulfill it.
The remeining feedbacks (mostly neutrals) are staying from me (for now).

Provence said:

So I suggest that the lowest threshold is the whole level 0 tag checklist howto:tag_checklist.
That is way more than the basics artist copyright character rating and source . I mean, this is already well defined what level 0 means.

So, mods are enforcing rules that doesn't even exist yet? If level 0 is the "Minimal Tagging Criteria" then it should say so. Why does howto:tag state a different threshold for minimal tags? Why is there two pages for pretty much the same topic?

This also means that the initial feedback given by kuuderes_shadow was wrong, as he should have linked to the howto:tag_checklist page and asked Sal.N to meet the level 0 requirement, instead of the outdated howto:tag page.

>Even for a blank page you can add this:
>no_humans artist copyright simple_background color_background
That's a different issue. The weight of these kinds of tags are abysmally lower than copyright and character tags.

toshiya4 said:

So, mods are enforcing rules that doesn't even exist yet? If level 0 is the "Minimal Tagging Criteria" then it should say so. Why does howto:tag state a different threshold for minimal tags? Why is there two pages for pretty much the same topic?

I don't know. Danbooru is a complete mess when it comes to rules. And I'm no mod, but just stating my opinion :P.
Because, let's face it: The tagging checklist is much more elaborate then the howto tag.

Howto tag should mention how to tag (indeed). That means mentioning rules like "Tag what you see" and the tagging checklist should mention: "How many tags are required for my uploads" and it already does a good job in my eyes.
-> We definitely should revise the howto tag wiki (in the future....)

Edited the howto tag wiki with some information.
I think that this wiki is fine per se, but the "Requirement" section needs to go, because the howto:tag_checklist explains it much better and is more adapted to today's tagging standards.
So the idea is that I delete this section from howto tag, so that we have one go to rule if there are questions and not two (especially if the two guidelines are contradictions..).