Posted under Bugs & Features
Type-kun said:
If I'm reading the code and queries correctly, receiving the tags in that DMail means that you forgot to add each of them on at least 5 uploads in the past week. Before we discuss how necessary this is, I want to know if is it misfiring, or did you actually not add solo and 1girl to 5+ uploads in the past week?
It's not a misfire... I never added the day tag, yet the following shows it added to 6 of my posts over the last week.
user:BrokenEagle98 age:..1w day
As for those that want to opt out, you can always use the DMail filter. Just use the keyword "DanbooruBot". I tested it on Testbooru and it didn't prevent me from getting the DMail, but it did prevent the "Message Notice" from popping up, plus it automatically marked it as read, so unless the DMail is checked manually, you'll never know it was there. Additionally, it marks the Username and Subject line with "[Filtered]", so you can also delete them without opening them up...
BrokenEagle98 said:
It's not a misfire... I never added the day tag, yet the following shows it added to 6 of my posts over the last week.
user:BrokenEagle98 age:..1w day
As for those that want to opt out, you can always use the DMail filter. Just use the keyword "DanbooruBot". I tested it on Testbooru and it didn't prevent me from getting the DMail, but it did prevent the "Message Notice" from popping up, plus it automatically marked it as read, so unless the DMail is checked manually, you'll never know it was there. Additionally, it marks the Username and Subject line with "[Filtered]", so you can also delete them without opening them up...
But doen't that defeat the Bot's purpose if I can simply turn it off? In any case, DMs from Mods and Admins can't be ignored.
Provence said:
But doen't that defeat the Bot's purpose if I can simply turn it off? In any case, DMs from Mods and Admins can't be ignored.
Perhaps, but it sounds like some want to be able to turn this off anyways. I imagine that capability to opt out will eventually get integrated for certain levels of users, and the weakpoint of the DMail filter will be ironed out if desired. Until then, it gives those users that would have opted out anyways a means to do so until one gets officially provided.
BrokenEagle98 said:
Perhaps, but it sounds like some want to be able to turn this off anyways.
The the following question should get discussed:
Is it more important that there is a device that helps improving tagging (I assume that is the purpose) or that users are left alone with their tagging, but could possibly miss out some (crucial) tags?
I don't mind it, but perhaps it would be better if it wasn't so obtrusive with the DMail notice. If there were two or more types of DMail levels similar to how regular e-mail has High and Low importance indicators (at least Outlook does). With a Low importance, the message notice would not get flashed, however the "My Account" indicator would still show that you had unread mail.
BrokenEagle98 said:
I don't mind it, but perhaps it would be better if it wasn't so obtrusive with the DMail notice. If there were two or more types of DMail levels similar to how regular e-mail has High and Low importance indicators (at least Outlook does). With a Low importance, the message notice would not get flashed, however the "My Account" indicator would still show that you had unread mail. Just some thoughts...
Yeah, it would be the same as hiding a regular DMail. Then you have next to "My account" a () notice.
Like if you have one hidden message, then it says "My account (1)".
But wouldn't that require (a lot) of programming? Makes me wonder if that's actually worth the effort.
I'm with Provence on this. Nobody likes being nagged. Making it easy to turn off or ignore will just ensure nobody uses it. The criteria just need to be tweaked to make it less spammy.
Also re: common tags like 1girl / solo, here's a PROTIP: put them in your frequent tags list under your settings. I do this so that I have a checklist of all the most commonly used tags I can run down when I'm tagging.
evazion said:
Also re: common tags like 1girl / solo, here's a PROTIP: put them in your frequent tags list under your settings. I do this so that I have a checklist of all the most commonly used tags I can run down when I'm tagging.
Great tip... that's what I use for my frequent tags. Below is a comprehensive list of what I use ordered by similarity, in case anyone wants to copy...
1girl
solo
long_hair
medium_hair
short_hair
bangs
eyebrows_visible_through_hair
standing
sitting
squatting
kneeling
one_knee
on_back
on_stomach
on_side
looking_at_viewer
looking_back
looking_at_another
looking_to_the_side
facing_viewer
from_side
from_behind
from_above
face
portrait
upper_body
cowboy_shot
full_body
smile
light_smile
frown
light_frown
smirk
grin
grimace
closed_mouth
parted_lips
open_mouth
one_eye_closed
closed_eyes
white_background
simple_background
light_blush
blush
holding
commentary
commentary_request
partial_commentary
translation_request
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Type-kun said:
If I'm reading the code and queries correctly, receiving the tags in that DMail means that you forgot to add each of them on at least 5 uploads in the past week. Before we discuss how necessary this is, I want to know if is it misfiring, or did you actually not add solo and 1girl to 5+ uploads in the past week?
I try to add these to any upload where they apply (apparently not enough), but if the system is supposed to introduce users to tags they may not know about, it seems counterproductive if the only tags I'm being contacted about are ones as basic as 1girl and solo.
No, I may not have put these on every single upload, but it's not because I didn't know about them. Sometimes, they're just forgotten.
I agree with Apollyon here. Certain tags are really easy to forget. I had a time when I forgot to add the sex tag, because they seem so..natural to add that I think I've already added that tag.
So for this tags that are in normal usage...1girl, solo, looking at viewer, blush, I think that the threshold should be pretty high.
Besides, what it is with vandalism? Like, if a user is adding pointless tags to your uploads and then you would get a DMail that you shouldn't forget to add this? Maybe this should stay open, because that way vandalism can be easier tracked down if such a DMail would go to a moderator.
With the latest commit, a Related Tags page has been added to the Tags menu, which accomplishes the same functionality as when editing posts without having to edit a post, i.e. returning the top 25 tags related to the search tag either in general or by certain tag category.
This is in response to issue #2750 created as a result of topic #13349.
With the latest commit, previous names of users can now be seen. This fixes issue #2830 as a result of topic #13516.
I've a question regarding the bad_anatomy and other tags like this:
If the DanbooruBot is sending such a DMail it would sound a bit weird that the uploader should consider this tag for their uploads.
Instead, if an user accumulates too many bad_* tags, should the message be that they should take more care about their uploads?
I hope I didn't miss anything. If yes, then i'm sorry for asking :>.
By the way: It would really be nice to let the uploader finish the tagging before adding further tags. That mostly happens with copyrights and characters and maybe some other tags. Because the original uploader is going to add the tags anyway (especially copyright and characters, unless they put the corresponding request tag.
The only thing such behavior does is creating a DMail by the DanbooruBot that reminds you to add the kantai collection or the saber tag...
With the latest update, use of fragment-only links with DText are now possible.
So instead of...
"Link to above forum post":/forum_topics/13166#forum_post_126229
...you can instead use...
"Link to above forum post":#forum_post_126229
Only useful when the fragment link is on the same page.
It is highly recommended when used on wiki pages to link to another place on the same wiki page. The reason being that wiki pages are also viewable from the posts page after doing a single tag search, and any links that aren't fragment-only links will take the user to the wiki page instead of remaining on the post page.
Note to all Builders!!!
With the resolution of issue #3282, the delete/undelete pool functionality has now been granted to this level. That should help move along a lot of the pool gardening that needs doing, in addition to making requests to topic #8282 being more responsive.
Updated
With the latest site update, uploaders can no longer see flags on their own uploads regardless of their user level (ref issue #3349).
It was made known to me that the above is not clear, so I'll explain further.
Updated
With the latest site update, users can now manually refresh the counters on their profile if they believe that they are wrong (issue #3757). The function "Refresh counts" is found at the bottom of the Users section on the Site Map. Currently this only refreshes uploads, post changes, and note changes, as most of the others seemed accurate during investigation.
With the latest site update, OR modifiers are now supported with blacklists. This allows for multiple lines to be collapsed down into one, which saves on processing time and makes the blacklist process more quickly on page load.
Before:
nude topless bottomless
After:
~nude ~topless ~bottomless
Before:
male_focus nude -1girl -multiple_girls male_focus topless -1girl -multiple_girls male_focus bottomless -1girl -multiple_girls
After:
male_focus ~nude ~topless ~botomless -1girl -multiple_girls
If there is more than one requirement term though (tags without "-" or "~"), then those lines cannot be combined with other lines.
Before:
nude -rating:s nude breasts -rating:s ass -rating:s ass cameltoe -rating:safe
After:
~nude ~breasts ~ass -rating:s ass cameltoe -rating:safe
