In the space of 24 minutes, 6 accounts have been created for the express purpose of changing questionable ratings to safe. The posts being affected are the same that user #494525 changed and were later reverted back to questionable.
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In the space of 24 minutes, 6 accounts have been created for the express purpose of changing questionable ratings to safe. The posts being affected are the same that user #494525 changed and were later reverted back to questionable.
user #494541
user #494540
user #494539
user #494537
user #494536
user #494535
Any mods on? Someone IP ban this guy.
I'm not sure all of their edits are wrong - post #2219256 doesn't seem to be questionable, for example. Most of the ones I looked at seem to be on the borderline between safe & questionable; the type of pictures that come up in a nude rating:s search
favgroup:1171 is where I saved his last batch of edits before reverting them in forum #119951. I agree, I don't think they're all wrong, but albert banned the guy anyway so I dunno.
evazion said:
Unless I'm reading the code wrong, they can? It looks like it started as admin only in 2011 but later changed to Janitor+, then changed to Mod+ last year.
I don't see a button or a checkbox for it on the ban interface from an account page; dunno if it's buried somewhere else. help:users claims we can't. But I'm not a code reader.
http://danbooru.donmai.us/ip_bans
Do you have access to that? It's hidden away under the site map.
Yup, and there's a mod listed as having done one recently. Guess I'll go update help:users then.
user #494925 user #494922 user #494920 user #494882 maybe more please check.
This guy for sure is stubborn.
Hillside_Moose said:
Did a wave of bans.
On that note, it's worth revisiting the mandatory week-long lurking period for new members. People really don't need to be editing things the instant they join, and it curbs chronic vandalism such as the current situation.
Sounds good to me, since they don't get immediate upload or commenting permissions either. And with this sort of thing, it seems pretty much a necessity - why allow people who can't upload the ability to edit ratings and all?
I tried cleaning up after this guy. He seems to like changing the same posts again and again.
user #495082 (currently active)
user #494878
user #494576
user #494572
user #494552
If I read this correctly, we should disallow users to change the rating within 1 week of signing up, right?
Maybe also lock other things while we're at it. Users already can't remove tags during the first week, but that's it, anything else can be changed as long as it is not locked.
Looking at the help:users page, I'd lock the following to a week-long probationary period:
He waited three days before coming back after his first ban. Then four days after that, then three days until today. He's already proven he has the patience to wait. All it would do is make him create his next batch of throwaways beforehand before he waits another week.
It only takes a few minutes to register dozens of accounts, you can do it just as fast as you can type usernames/passwords. It's less work than doing the tag edits themselves.
Requiring email confirmation for new accounts would be more effective. Every site has to deal with abuse. Everybody. But few handle it by locking new users out of everything. That's way heavy-handed and punishing for the vast majority of people who sign up to contribute in good faith.
If reverting a single guy's casual vandalism is too much work then that speaks more to a lack of effective mod tools than anything else.
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evazion said:
Requiring email confirmation for new accounts would be more effective. Every site has to deal with abuse. Everybody. But few handle it by locking new users out of everything. That's way heavy-handed and punishing for the vast majority of people who sign up to contribute in good faith.
If someone is signing up in good faith to actually contribute, then they have enough faith to wait for editing rights just like they would for every other right that's barred from new users.
I've always found it weird that new accounts couldn't upload or comment, but they could edit tags. If nothing else it's just closing an exploitable loophole.
FWIW I've come to think the other restrictions on new users were bad ideas too. They were lazy solutions and I think they've driven people away and made the community grow increasingly stagnant over the years.
I can think of plenty of things we could do before resorting to a blanket ban. Require a confirmed email address before making edits. Blacklist disposable email addresses. Blacklist signups from Tor IPs and known proxies. Block people from making multiple accounts with the same IP. Set an evercookie after banning someone so if they make a new account they're immediately rebanned.
Purge inactive mods, and promote more who pay attention to the forums so we always have people on duty to respond quickly. Build mod tools to make mass reverting the edits of a list of users fast and easy. And make sure mods are informed about the tools at their disposal too, I bet more than a few weren't aware they could IP ban people.
There are so many things we could try before saying "fuck it, new users can't upload, can't comment, can't vote, can't tag edit, can't do anything." I think it's overly restrictive to limit everyone because of one guy, especially when situations like this are fairly infrequent.