Tag implication: cheeseburger -> hamburger

create implication cheeseburger -> hamburger

Link to implication

Subset.

*alternatively: alias it

I think the alias would work better in this particular situation.

I was about to suggest alias. Then again there are 6 posts.

-1, why not just manually add hamburger and/or remove cheeseburger?

Maybe because they are cheeseburgers and not hamburgers ? Perception never alters reality.

In the spirit of this thread why not french fries -> mashed potato since they are both the same vegetable ?

Claverhouse said:

Maybe because they are cheeseburgers and not hamburgers?

A cheeseburger is most definitely a hamburger. A hamburger however isn't necessarily a cheeseburger.

Given how few posts there are I'm in favour of just manually switching cheeseburger to hamburger. They aren't visually distinct enough to need their own tag.

Claverhouse said:

Maybe because they are cheeseburgers and not hamburgers ? Perception never alters reality.

In the spirit of this thread why not french fries -> mashed potato since they are both the same vegetable ?

What do you think a hamburger is made out of, ham? A cheeseburger is just a hamburger with cheese added. Do you think baconburgers need a tag too? If someone puts anchovies on their hamburger should we have anchovieburger? All variations of hamburger.

It's a dialect problem. Where I live, "hamburger" and "cheeseburger" are both "burgers", but neither is a member of the other's group. That doesn't mean danbooru has to use the same system, though. "Cheeseburgers are hamburgers with cheese on them" is probably the more common system.

edit: Given that basically every cheeseburger is tagged with hamburger instead of cheeseburger right now, I think it would be right to manually switch cheeseburger to hamburger and add a note on the "hamburger" wiki that it includes cheeseburgers.

Blue_Trident said:

Given how few posts there are I'm in favour of just manually switching cheeseburger to hamburger. They aren't visually distinct enough to need their own tag.

Given how the current oldest cheeseburger tag is only seven months old, this has probably happened before.

Gollgagh said:

Given how the current oldest cheeseburger tag is only seven months old, this has probably happened before.

Might be worth an alias then, so we don't revisit this again seven months from now.

wareya said:

It's a dialect problem. Where I live, "hamburger" and "cheeseburger" are both "burgers", but neither is a member of the other's group. That doesn't mean danbooru has to use the same system, though. "Cheeseburgers are hamburgers with cheese on them" is probably the more common system.

edit: Given that basically every cheeseburger is tagged with hamburger instead of cheeseburger right now, I think it would be right to manually switch cheeseburger to hamburger and add a note on the "hamburger" wiki that it includes cheeseburgers.

+1 on bulk updating the cheeseburger to hamburger and editing the wiki for hamburger. It already mentions extra patties or vegetables - we may as well include cheese and maybe distinguish between it and a sandwich which is a similar food that doesn't require a bun.

Where I live if you put a beef patty between two slices of ordinary sliced bread it's still a hamburger.

edit: The beef patty can even be formed square.

wareya said:

Where I live if you put a beef patty between two slices of ordinary sliced bread it's still a hamburger.

edit: The beef patty can even be formed square.

Once you lose the party of ground meat, it goes from being a burger or patty melt to plain sandwich though.

Patty melts are basically burgers without the bun, but just bread. It's the ground meat patty which differentiates them anyways.

As far as I know, patty melts are made with toast, and some kind of gooey thing like cheese is mandatory instead of optional. If I put a burger patty and cheese between pieces of untoasted ordinary bread I'd still call it a burger instead of a sandwich or melt. But I consider burgers to be a type of sandwich.

The tag implication cheeseburger -> hamburger has been rejected.

I'd support an alias to prevent future usage of the cheeseburger tag.

create alias cheeseburger -> hamburger

Link to request

^^
But then again, it only has 7(?) posts tagged with this.
Well, I'll leave that to you^^.

The bulk update request #893 has been approved.

I see someone added the cheese part to the hamburger wiki.

I'd propose that we throw patty melts into the hamburger tag too (though I doubt anyone will create a tag for them) due to the use of a hamburger patty and cheese, much like a bona-fide burger.