[Voting Thread] Contributor Status

+1, and also echoing the following:

OOZ662 said:

I'd rather that flagging become less of a stigma and simply more widely used. A pipedram, I know.

richie said:

as flagging obviously doesn't discipline contribs+ whatsoever, while trying to directly and personally pointing out one's shortcomings is even worse and may result in personal retortions

Though I'm voting the opposite, I'm also echoing some of D1ce's thoughts as well, particularly the first paragraph in his/her views regarding the queue.

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Until we fix the issues with the queue (the only consistent experience I have with it is that I have to edit three days to see if something fails and don't get any decent feedback as to why), changing how Contributors upload does nothing except make the queue problem worse.

I'm hesitant to upload things for moderation these days as I'm not even sure if it'll get failed with a decent reason (like bad art) or if it just dies in there due to lack of interest. I'd guess that we wouldn't be having this vote if people felt that moderation was less a chore (both for the approver as well as the uploader), and thus it was more consistent in both speed and feedback given.

Things did improve six months back for about three weeks... then went back to the usual slow death by frustration.

I'm okay with monitoring Contributors - but a random assortment isn't much good. Having a person digging through the last week or two's uploads once every 6-12 months (or when a threshold amount of queue-bypass posts get flagged) would be better.

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My problem isn't "some users have unlimited uploading priviledges", it's "I feel constricted by deletion % restrictions".

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No one has addressed my math concerns. Sending a random percentage to the mod queue certainly feels good and all but offers no statistical significance without a large sample. I fear it won't actually solve anything, or it will be too random and people will get upset by the results.

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One, because of albert's concerns that weren't answered outside of "then just put a higher percentage of their images into the mod queue" response. Two, for low upload contributors it may be a long time to remove themselves from this. Three, it feels that we're jumping the gun into judging contributors as guilty and needing this change now, particularly as no real evidence was provided outside that which could be greatly influenced by confirmational bias.

I don't think the system proposed here is bad, but I think it is one step further than is neceassry at this moment in time with the current evidence available.

Something to consider with the current proposal is that the system of pulling out users who receive a number of deletions in a given time could be spun off on its own to identify users that a moderator could check on.

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Haha, seems like another good way to demotivate people. If someone doesn't like the post, they could just flag them. Anyway regarding reviews, I welcome anyone to review my previous uploads, though I've really been inactive lately since I have to take care some important things first. And I don't know when will I return in the job.

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I don't agree with the sentiment that bad contributor uploads is such a pervasive problem in the first place. And even if it were a cause for concern, I don't see how an automatic system that randomizes the process is a better form of quality control than what we have now. Let's not complicate things; if an upload isn't up to scratch, flag it, and if a contributor's uploads aren't good enough overall, demotion remains an option.

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Another non-solution to a nontrovercy.

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After looking at the direction of where everyone else was going with this, I realized this could never work. Meanwhile, flagging is happening more than ever, which is exactly what was needed to stamp out poor contributor uploads in the meantime. The worst uploaders can now also be tracked for their deletions and contested. Random sending to queue would not have done what was intended.

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I don't believe bad contributor uploads is that great of problem, and I don't think sending a random sampling to the queue would really help. The current feedback and flagging systems (with perhaps some refinement) are adequate to address the issue.

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I'd rather see flagging become more accepted and seen not as a personal attack but a reconsideration. Contributors have, in being invited to the position, already adhered to a higher standard to earn some degree of trust. If said trust is broken then flagging of posts and an intervention at some level if a user's uploads are getting out of hand should be enough.

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Oh god more work in the queue.