Donmai

Tricks with notes?

Posted under Bugs & Features

I've been wondering for a while now… every once in a while I'll come across a post where the notes are not only shown in boxes below upon hover, but also in the boxes covering the original text, for example, post #2198395 or post #2290983.

However, most of the time, the text won't display in the original boxes, only in the lower boxes upon hover. For example, post #2338281.

What is it that allows/causes the text to display in the original boxes like so?

It's mostly up to the translator's preference.

Sometimes it works very well, like in the first post you linked, some cases (like vertical or tiny textbubbles) it's horrible.
As long as it's readable either way works for me.

You don't have to click anyway - just hover your mouse over it.

Having the embedded note means if you want to check the translation that you have to keep clicking. It's when it isn't embedded that there's never a need to click. Not to mention embedded usually means that it either looks really stupid or conceals parts of the image.

Like that second example you gave. In fact, it's so bad I'm going to get rid of the embedding.

kuuderes_shadow said:

You don't have to click anyway - just hover your mouse over it.

This doesn't work for smartphones though...

kuuderes_shadow said:

Having the embedded note means if you want to check the translation that you have to keep clicking.

I don't check translations often so I can't really comment, but couldn't you just drag the box off to the side without saving it? You'd have to move your mouse to every translation box regardless...

kuuderes_shadow said:

Not to mention embedded usually means that it either looks really stupid or conceals parts of the image.

True, that's why recently, I've been checking how the notes look from multiple computers and browsers, though I'll admit that even that's not a surefire method.

Updated

Ps, some users go to great lengths to make the embedded notes look fitting, even to the point where the normal hover-over notes are hard to use.
Recently came across pool #10391

On a somewhat related issue - what's the stance on mirrored / upside down text in notes? Even if it's a more "accurate display of the original text" i feel there's not much point if it makes the text unreadable.

Laethiel said:

It wouldn't bother me if there were a user-side setting to disable them site-wide, but as far as I can tell, there still isn't. And it's been that way for over a year now: topic #11337

I'll take a look at the CSS and see if there's a way to disable them sitewide if a user so chooses. And if there is, it shouldn't take much effort to put a switch in the user settings so even those with no knowledge of CSS can use it.

Using the code above, I ran into an issue with notes using relative font sizes still appearing, e.g. <font size="+1"> in post #2230311
This code works on all pages I've tried so far, though:

/* Make embedded notes appear as normal */
div.note-box-inner-border {color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); opacity: 0.5}
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