Cunnyseur_Gabe said: The other side doubles down on the meme claiming it as a way to gatekeep the game from tourists, be it BA players and non-players alike.
I understand the logic behind gatekeeping, but I don't understand why people are so vehement to gatekeep Blue Archive.
Despite being rated 17+ on the App Store, BA is lighter on the fanservice than most gacha. Yeah, it has a lot of lolis in it, but there are lolis in a lot of pieces of media made in the Far East, and Blue Archive just happens to have more than most. And even then, I'd say only about 1/3~1/2 of the cast are lolis.
I understand the logic behind gatekeeping, but I don't understand why people are so vehement to gatekeep Blue Archive.
Despite being rated 17+ on the App Store, BA is lighter on the fanservice than most gacha. Yeah, it has a lot of lolis in it, some being more scantily clad than others, but there are lewdable lolis in a lot of pieces of media made in the Far East, including some made by Nintendo, and Blue Archive just happens to have more than most. And even then, I'd say only about 1/3 of the cast are lolis.
The same reason you would want to gatekeep anything. Just look at what's been happening to things like 40k and DnD. It's not specifically about the lolis, either. BA has a lot of teacher/student relation undertones (and overtones), characters like Hanako, and other fanservicey elements. BA fans don't want that stuff to be messed with, and if you don't gatekeep at least a little you risk the voices that complain about that stuff getting loud enough to have an effect on the game. You can't argue that wouldn't happen, either, considering that loud complaining resulted in the devs releasing a separate 17+ version of the app to address issues of censorship. The devs listen to the players, and the players don't want them listening to "players" that would just try to change the game.
There's already been multiple instances of community staff and even translators trying to scrub some of the lewd stuff in an attempt to pretend either that stuff isn't there or that the writing has become less "problematic" than it was initially, neither of which are true. So, the playerbase has gotten a bit... protective.
I also want to clarify this, before a gatekeeping argument starts, gatekeeping does not mean "Stopping anyone from joining the community" it means "keeping or driving out people that are just there to try to cause strife." It's not any different from Danbooru users downvoting people that comment just to tell everyone how much they don't like rape art instead of just blacklisting it.
You can't argue that wouldn't happen, either, considering that loud complaining resulted in the devs releasing a separate 17+ version of the app to address issues of censorship.
There's a version of the game that's not 17+? That's news to me. Even then, there are complaints of censorship in the 17+ version, to the point where it's been bombarded with 1-star reviews on Google Play and is currently sitting at a 3.6 rating. I don't see a bunch of puritans causing changes to a frickin' 17+ game.
I also want to clarify this, before a gatekeeping argument starts, gatekeeping does not mean "Stopping anyone from joining the community" it means "keeping or driving out people that are just there to try to cause strife."
This incident has done more to harm Blue Archive's reputation than any amount of infiltration ever could. A lot of tourists commented on this incident, thinking it was business as usual for the BA fandom, even tourists who play lewder gacha like Azur Lane and NIKKE. Forget censored; I'm genuinely worried this will encourage people to get this game banned.
There's a version of the game that's not 17+? That's news to me. Even then, there are complaints of censorship in the 17+ version, to the point where it's been bombarded with 1-star reviews on Google Play and is currently sitting at a 3.6 rating. I don't see a bunch of puritans causing changes to a frickin' 17+ game.
The current censorship complaints and the older complaints are different matters. Originally the global app was rated 12+ or something, and some cutscenes were censored by the devs due to "third-party requests." This was despite the devs claiming there would be no censorship. After players complained enough, they eventually raised the apps age rating to 17+, removed the censorship, and released a separate 12+ app with the censorship intact. Maybe they've taken down the 12+ app by now, I'm not sure.
The current complaints are largely for the translation quality in general. Suggestive lines never avoid getting hit when there's a new update, but innocuous lines get mistranslated, too, so it's hard to tell how much of it is incompetence and how much, if any, is actual malice. Obviously some players think it's all malice. Mobile game devs always outsource their translations so it's arguably not their fault, but BA's devs usually get the mistakes fixed when the players call it out.
This incident has done more to harm Blue Archive's reputation than any amount of infiltration ever could. A lot of tourists commented on this incident, thinking it was business as usual for the BA fandom, even tourists who play lewder gacha like Azur Lane and NIKKE. Forget censored; I'm genuinely worried this will encourage people to get this game banned.
Unfortunately can't really disagree with that, though getting banned is unlikely, at least in the US. If it wasn't going to get banned for things like fully nude Aris and "school shootings" then it's not going to just because someone in China was being racist. Wouldn't surprise me if someone in Europe tried to ban it, though.
It's art from the officially licensed GBA port, the reddit post explains (Artist tag is the name I read on the signature plus the studio who ported it's name)
EDIT: This was also used as the title screen, good and proper Tsukihistory lol
Instead of calling Rinne Tsukihime an officially licensed GBA port, it sounds more accurately it's a licensed converter released during winter comiket 2001. It's software that will convert the PC game into a rom for the GBA. It's expected that one owns the original game to be able to use this.
Instead of calling Rinne Tsukihime an officially licensed GBA port, it sounds more accurately it's a licensed converter released during winter comiket 2001. It's software that will convert the PC game into a rom for the GBA. It's expected that one owns the original game to be able to use this.
It's art from the officially licensed GBA port, the reddit post explains (Artist tag is the name I read on the signature plus the studio who ported it's name)
It's art from the officially licensed GBA port, the reddit post explains (Artist tag is the name I read on the signature plus the studio who ported it's name)
so you're telling me the problem with cannibalism in our society is getting food poison and not the moral implications that come with taking a human life?
Ngl if you really think about it if we practiced cannibalism we would not only solve world hunger, but also overpopulation and reduce deforestation massively as we wouldn’t have to chop down rainforests for farms.
Also we slaughter hundreds of millions of animals a day not just for food but for our clothes and we also inflict immense suffering on animals such as literally raping cows just to make milk. Cannibalism might inflict less suffering than factory farming, and would help us stop factory farming as we will not be eating as much animal meat.
Ngl if you really think about it if we practiced cannibalism we would not only solve world hunger, but also overpopulation and reduce deforestation massively as we wouldn’t have to chop down rainforests for farms.
Also we slaughter hundreds of millions of animals a day not just for food but for our clothes and we also inflict immense suffering on animals such as literally raping cows just to make milk. Cannibalism might inflict less suffering than factory farming, and would help us stop factory farming as we will not be eating as much animal meat.
Chickens will eat just about anything that they can gobble down they're like walking bird trash cans which includes other chickens but they don't go out of their way to kill another to eat them
Ngl if you really think about it if we practiced cannibalism we would not only solve world hunger, but also overpopulation and reduce deforestation massively as we wouldn’t have to chop down rainforests for farms.
Also we slaughter hundreds of millions of animals a day not just for food but for our clothes and we also inflict immense suffering on animals such as literally raping cows just to make milk. Cannibalism might inflict less suffering than factory farming, and would help us stop factory farming as we will not be eating as much animal meat.
mf read Johnathan Swift's Modest Proposal and didn't get the joke
mf read Johnathan Swift's Modest Proposal and didn't get the joke
This is a common misconception. Johnathan Swift doesn’t suggest that the poor eat their babies, but instead that they sell their babies as food to the rich. He also makes calculations on how much their meat would be worth.
A Modest Proposal is directly making fun of capitalism, and more specifically business owners through this. It makes fun of the idea of business in general with making out the price of the meat and trying to make a profit, as well as pointing out the unethical practices of business owners.
In a post capitalist society cannibalism can still be mandated and managed by the state for good purposes.
We humans have a risk of getting prion disease every time we eat someone of our own species. It is incurable, horrible beyond measures and not a single person in the world wants to go out the way a prion disease will do to you.
coincidentally i just had this conversation today, and i had a theory that the aversion to cannibalism is an evolutionary trait that developed out of social animals like human. because social animals depend on each others to survive, it is disadvantageous for them to eat each others - rather than banding together & cooperating to find food (& distribute food, & preserve food) more efficiently. over time, natural selection weeded out those who practiced cannibalism, leaving those who doesn't. enough time passed and the "no-cannibalism" rule is somewhat hard-coded into genetic, producing adversed physiological effect in (most of) those who practices cannibalism (alongside the societal taboo).
when you look into other species, cannibalism is not really that taboo in general; nature is hardcore after all. a pair of rabbits (or any other rodents) having produced too much offsprings that they can't feed, may resort to offing some of their weakest offsprings to recover some proteins.
