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Wolf_of_Gubbio said:

so filipinos can't speak tagalog?

A fair number of educated Filipinos are the kind to live in main cities/upper-class enough to go abroad and enjoy the spoils of English-language media to the point where the typical conversation is a mix with a lot of slang/colloquialisms derived from English words. And there's a certain idea of intelligence associated with knowing English. This effect is multiplied hundredfold to the types you'd usually find in English online spaces. But those living in the provinces and such usually don't have the luxury or any reason to do so, and are perfectly fluent in native languages. Just my view though.

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    brainrot said:

    A fair number of educated Filipinos are the kind to live in main cities/upper-class enough to go abroad and enjoy the spoils of English-language media to the point where the typical conversation is a mix with a lot of slang/colloquialisms derived from English words. And there's a certain idea of intelligence associated with knowing English. This effect is multiplied hundredfold to the types you'd usually find in English online spaces. But those living in the provinces and such usually don't have the luxury or any reason to do so, and are perfectly fluent in native languages. Just my view though.

    My parents are an older generation, but owing between being Visaya and living in the US for several decades, they will weave in and out between Cebuano, English, Spanish, and Tagalog, often within a single sentence (already owing to the number of Spanish loanwords in Filipino dialects too). With even more English ubiquity and online interaction, I can totally imagine growing up with a lot less of handle on Tagalog or home dialects than English.

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    Wolf_of_Gubbio said:

    so filipinos can't speak tagalog?

    just an outsider perspective - i am no filipino,
    but the philippines seems to have a very diverse set of ethnic languages:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_the_Philippines#Regional_languages
    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2c/Philippine_languages_per_region.png
    as such, someone who speaks cebuano/bisaya might not know tagalog, and might not intend to study tagalog when they can already use english as the lingua franca instead.
    (this might be a fringe case rather than the norm, i can't be sure since i don't know much about the rate of filipino bilingualism/trilingualism)

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