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Cannot edit tags in for some reason?

Edit: Huh it somehow fixed itself after I posted this comment. Idk why but danbooru was doing this weird thing with my two recent uploads where I'd click on the edit button multiple times but nothing would happen (it would work just fine for other images!). Might need to see if the bug is replicable...

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    Arcana55 said:

    This doesn't seem correct to tag ai-generated art (topic). It's not criticizing or commenting on AI art and its effects on artists, etc. Rather it seems to be straight-forward ai-assisted, with a generator providing a base design that the artist uses only as inspiration.

    The wiki page for ai_generated_art (topic) said:

    For posts about the subject of AI-generated art. A common use of this tag is for re-drawings of an AI-generated image

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    marcymal said:

    You seem to have missed some text:

    The wiki page for ai_generated_art (topic) actually says:

    For posts about the subject of AI-generated art. A common use of this tag is for re-drawings of an AI-generated image that has gone viral.

    (emphasis added)

    Such viral images nearly always are intended to mock AI generated art and highlight its shortcomings. They are about AI-generated art in a way this work is not.

    The tag ai-assisted has acquired a negative nuance on Danbooru by association, and also because it is sometimes applied in a way that means "I think this is AI generated but can't prove it" or "I think this is AI generated with minimal touchup by a human being." These connotations may lead to an inclination toward using ai-generated art (topic) as a kind of euphemism. However, the way AI generation is used here, solely as a source of initial inspiration for a work which is a product of a person's technique, is I think a useful and legitimate approach. ai-assisted need not be a mark of shame in this case.

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    Arcana55 said:

    If the Touhou generator was used as a source of inspiration for this and this is fully or mostly human-drawn, then this should be tagged ai-assisted.

    However it looks and sounds like this is a direct product of the generator itself, in which case it should be tagged ai-generated and deleted.

    Either case, this is misuse of the ai-generated art (topic) tag.

    How did you come to the conclusion that this was ai-generated? From an artist that has never generated anything before or after this (that we know of), looks like the rest of the artist's stuff around that time, and was posted in response to a challenge to "draw these funny generated touhous"?

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    Arcana55 said:

    However it looks and sounds like this is a direct product of the generator itself, in which case it should be tagged ai-generated and deleted.

    The Twitter post is from 2021-12-13[1]. Stable Diffusion was released in August 2022[2][3]. Find me a model from late 2021 that can generate images as coherent and consistent with the artist's usual style as this post.

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    ehh said:

    The Twitter post is from 2021-12-13[1]. Stable Diffusion was released in August 2022[2][3]. Find me a model from late 2021 that can generate images as coherent and consistent with the artist's usual style as this post.

    Encountering this post under ai-generated art (topic) tag along with posts like post #7486384 and post #7486418, along with the previous discussion here, I came to the conclusion that this post was associated with the hashtag "#aigeneratedtohou" as well, without the obvious redrawing those other posts have. Given the original tweet date you mention, that was clearly a mistake on my part.

    Still, that makes the ai-generated art (topic) tag even more wrong.

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    Arcana55 said

    Still, that makes the ai-generated art (topic) tag even more wrong.

    These drawings are literally redraws of ai-generated Touhou OCs. If anything, the idea of that tag not applying is absurd. They are undeniably within the scope of the tag. So unless you care to tell me how else one would be able to indicate that situation beyond ai-generated art (topic), then I'd like to ask you to quit making a fool of yourself in arguing against that tag's inclusion on a post that is literally a redraw of an ai-generated image, one of the main uses of the damn tag.

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    FireBranded said:

    Guess nobody watched the final season of Picard. It was actually good, despite how HORRIBLE the first two seasons were.

    So, can you explain it for us? I can't recommend people sit through two seasons of awful to get one reference

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    Captain Shaw refers to himself that way when talking about how, when he was just low rank engineer, was one of ten survivors from his ship, picked at random by a ship's officer, to get on a shuttle before his ship was destroyed at the Battle of Wolf 359.

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    CitrusC said:

    So, can you explain it for us? I can't recommend people sit through two seasons of awful to get one reference

    You don't have to watch the first two seasons to understand what 3 is doing. It essentially ignores most of what happened (especially anything related to season 2) and could be considered a long Picard movie. The end of season one is even only sort of a passing topic and is mostly ignored for the plot of 3.

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    ithekro said:

    Captain Shaw refers to himself that way when talking about how, when he was just low rank engineer, was one of ten survivors from his ship, picked at random by a ship's officer, to get on a shuttle before his ship was destroyed at the Battle of Wolf 359.

    So...basically Sisko's backstory?

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    Steak said:

    So...basically Sisko's backstory?

    Sisko was like first officer on his ship and had family onboard. Shaw was a lower decks engineer, probably an ensign that was picked at random by a superior officer to get into one of the last ships...the superior officer remained behind and died. He was basically randomly picked to be one of ten survivors from his ship. Only ten, because only one shuttle was left functional, and the escape pods were either being blown up or pulled in for assimilation.

    Judging by the references made in the show, it was an old ship, Constellation-class.

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    ithekro said:

    Sisko was like first officer on his ship and had family onboard. Shaw was a lower decks engineer, probably an ensign that was picked at random by a superior officer to get into one of the last ships...the superior officer remained behind and died. He was basically randomly picked to be one of ten survivors from his ship. Only ten, because only one shuttle was left functional, and the escape pods were either being blown up or pulled in for assimilation.

    Judging by the references made in the show, it was an old ship, Constellation-class.

    It WAS a Constellation-class, the U.S.S. Constance. It's referenced in the closing credits.

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