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I need to confess something that will likely anger a lot of people here : I eat spaghettis with a fork and a knife, and I often cut them to not spill ketchup all over the table when I begin slurping them.

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    FRien said:

    I need to confess something that will likely anger a lot of people here : I eat spaghettis with a fork and a knife, and I often cut them to not spill ketchup all over the table when I begin slurping them.

    Don't worry, I eat them with chopsticks.
    It makes more sense if you tried it.

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    blindVigil said:

    Neither. She's far from the only Trinity student to despise Gehenna to the point of welcoming all-out war with them. It's a fairly popular sentiment, as well as mutual.

    Other students sharing Mika's sentiment doesn't actually answer my question, which is whether Mika's own stance on Gehenna changes following the events of Volume 3. Does the subject ever come up in a later volume, or perhaps a relationship or event story that takes place after the end of Volume 3? Obviously, Mika's not trying to take over Trinity General School in order to overthrow the Eden Treaty anymore, but is that because she's genuinely turned a new leaf regarding Gehenna, or is it just because she doesn't want to strain her relationships with her friends (Sensei included) who do support warmer Trinity/Gehenna relations (or, you know, get expelled)?

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    XionGaTaosenai said:

    Other students sharing Mika's sentiment doesn't actually answer my question, which is whether Mika's own stance on Gehenna changes following the events of Volume 3. Does the subject ever come up in a later volume, or perhaps a relationship or event story that takes place after the end of Volume 3? Obviously, Mika's not trying to take over Trinity General School in order to overthrow the Eden Treaty anymore, but is that because she's genuinely turned a new leaf regarding Gehenna, or is it just because she doesn't want to strain her relationships with her friends (Sensei included) who do support warmer Trinity/Gehenna relations (or, you know, get expelled)?

    I literally answered that question. "Neither." Her stance doesn't change nor do her feelings for her friends or Sensei have any impact on her stance. She hates Gehenna and makes it abundantly clear that she will always hate Gehenna. She ceases being the villain of the chapter and gives up on her genocide plans because she was beaten, no longer had the Arius support, and was talked down by Sensei. She's not trying to take over Trinity anymore because she literally can't, and never personally wanted to anyway.

    The only reason she was trying to take over Trinity in the first place is because an adult manipulated her into doing it. I feel like I explained these things pretty cleary in my coverage of her redemption.

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    blindVigil said:

    I literally answered that question. "Neither." Her stance doesn't change nor do her feelings for her friends or Sensei have any impact on her stance. She hates Gehenna and makes it abundantly clear that she will always hate Gehenna. She ceases being the villain of the chapter and gives up on her genocide plans because she was beaten, no longer had the Arius support, and was talked down by Sensei. She's not trying to take over Trinity anymore because she literally can't, and never personally wanted to anyway.

    The only reason she was trying to take over Trinity in the first place is because an adult manipulated her into doing it. I feel like I explained these things pretty cleary in my coverage of her redemption.

    "Neither" isn't a valid answer to the question I was actually asking, but I guess I was wording the question poorly. It's just that I know that Mika later tries to take out Saori and the rest of Arius Squad while also going into a depression spiral where she considers herself to be irredeemable, but eventually learns to forgive both Saori and herself with Sensei's help, and I was wondering if that forgiveness also extended to Gehenna - apparently it did not, though if the subject genuinely hasn't come up since the conclusion of Volume 3 then I'd say the answer is still up in the air. Even if she "made it abundantly clear that she will always hate Gehenna", did she say that before or after her conflict against and later mercy towards Saori and the Arius Squad?

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    I don't believe it's explicitly stated whether she still hates Gehenna. She is probably just keeping her feelings to herself on the matter since peace was made with Gehenna. This is doubtless the feeling of many students from both schools. They're not friends, they're just no longer enemies.

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    Oh_My said:

    Where does the racist-Mika meme come from?

    Ok uh, lore lectures and randomly bringing up other characters aside, there were 2 actual, in game, instances that led to the creation of the Mika racist meme. These quotes aren't verbatim but pretty close, to the global translations anyways. The first instance was when she was talking to sensei about how she thought the treaty was stupid and she "hates the Gehenna students, I don't really have a reason why, I've just always hated them." The second instance was during Volume F when Rin called the Tea Party and the Pandemonium Society to discuss the energy fluctuations before the 6 towers came down. She threatened to "come over there permanently shut up." I think either Makoto or Satsuki after the Society kept being difficult. And no, so far there has been no acknowledgement or improvement to her mindset about Gehenna. In fact she didn't even get reprimanded for threatening a Society member, which even I thought was wild. Also, what was she even doing there? Mika was expelled from the Tea Party by that point, I think she shoe horned her way in lol.

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    StrikeHeart said:

    Ok uh, lore lectures and randomly bringing up other characters aside, there were 2 actual, in game, instances that led to the creation of the Mika racist meme. These quotes aren't verbatim but pretty close, to the global translations anyways. The first instance was when she was talking to sensei about how she thought the treaty was stupid and she "hates the Gehenna students, I don't really have a reason why, I've just always hated them." The second instance was during Volume F when Rin called the Tea Party and the Pandemonium Society to discuss the energy fluctuations before the 6 towers came down. She threatened to "come over there permanently shut up." I think either Makoto or Satsuki after the Society kept being difficult. And no, so far there has been no acknowledgement or improvement to her mindset about Gehenna. In fact she didn't even get reprimanded for threatening a Society member, which even I thought was wild. Also, what was she even doing there? Mika was expelled from the Tea Party by that point, I think she shoe horned her way in lol.

    Technically speaking, Mika hasn't been expelled from the Tea Party yet, she just can't be the host anymore until her faction picks someone else to replace her, but until that happens she's still their official representative in the council.

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    I also didn't go and add any of the characters from the official clips, so feel free to add any that may have been missed.

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