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Someone more knowledgeable about BL lore should do something like this for Asuna and Hanako. I hear they're not as lewd as the fandom often portrays them as.

Kahvro said:

Someone more knowledgeable about BL lore should do something like this for Asuna and Hanako. I hear they're not as lewd as the fandom often portrays them as.

Dunno who told you that about Hanako cause they're clearly not someone knowledgeable about the lore. Does she ever do anything truly nsfw? No, of course not, it's not that kind of game.

She does however canonically say inappropriate things over a loudspeaker to an entire stadium of thousands of teenage girls, and she does canonically run around a deserted island wearing a button-up shirt, bikini top, and no bottoms. Her in-game model is bottomless to this day. She also makes suggestive jokes towards Sensei on multiple occasions, even to the point of almost getting them in trouble with other adults.

Besides, "Not as lewd as the fandom portrays them" is literally every character in everything. It's not a very interesting comparison to make.

blindVigil said:

Dunno who told you that about Hanako cause they're clearly not someone knowledgeable about the lore. Does she ever do anything truly nsfw? No, of course not, it's not that kind of game.

She does however canonically say inappropriate things over a loudspeaker to an entire stadium of thousands of teenage girls, and she does canonically run around a deserted island wearing a button-up shirt, bikini top, and no bottoms. Her in-game model is bottomless to this day. She also makes suggestive jokes towards Sensei on multiple occasions, even to the point of almost getting them in trouble with other adults.

Besides, "Not as lewd as the fandom portrays them" is literally every character in everything. It's not a very interesting comparison to make.

I meant that in my research about her, most of Hanako's teasing and lewdness isn't actually all that sincere, it's just a front, a deliberate act she puts on, just to mess with people and deal with her loneliness, as well as the fact she's also incredibly smart.

And I don't agree with the "not a very interesting comparison" stance, especially in regards to Asuna since from I've read, Asuna is mostly just a very friendly, hard working, happy-go-lucky gal, like a big friendly dog, whereas fandom usually portrays her exclusively as a slut, not JUST "lewder than she actually is," especially since beyond liking wearing the bunny suit a lot, she doesn't appear to be all that lewd, and especially especially in comparison to Hanako who is more active with cultivating her lewd image.

Kahvro said:

I meant that in my research about her, most of Hanako's teasing and lewdness isn't actually all that sincere, it's just a front, a deliberate act she puts on, just to mess with people and deal with her loneliness, as well as the fact she's also incredibly smart.

From what I read about her, she's also acting that way to keep herself from being dragged into Trinity Academy's politics.

Kahvro said:

I meant that in my research about her, most of Hanako's teasing and lewdness isn't actually all that sincere, it's just a front, a deliberate act she puts on, just to mess with people and deal with her loneliness, as well as the fact she's also incredibly smart.

These things are true, and none of them are relevant. The point of this Noa comparison is that Canon Noa and Fanon Noa are practically two entirely different people. Fanon Noa is completely inaccurate to her canon personality, to the point of being bizarre.

Whether or not Hanako's lewdness is sincere changes nothing. She does shout obscenities in public, she does occasionally walk around in inappropriate attire, and she does make suggestive jokes towards both other students and Sensei. The fandom's depictions of her doing these things is not inaccurate. That she may in fact be doing them as an act doesn't make the fact she does them less true.

And I don't agree with the "not a very interesting comparison" stance, especially in regards to Asuna since from I've read, Asuna is mostly just a very friendly, hard working, happy-go-lucky gal, like a big friendly dog, whereas fandom usually portrays her exclusively as a slut, not JUST "lewder than she actually is," especially since beyond liking wearing the bunny suit a lot, she doesn't appear to be all that lewd, and especially especially in comparison to Hanako who is more active with cultivating her lewd image.

It's not an interesting comparison because it happens to literally every sexy character. Half of her art doesn't even come from fans, it's just NSFW artists following trends. She's not even the only BA character to get that treatment. Do you think there's any good reason for Nonomi to be a member of the Dryness Squad?

I honestly don't think the actual BA fandom exclusively portrays her as a slut. Most of that comes from NSFW artists who do that with every character, and half of whom definitely never played the game. Every content creator and meme maker I can think of portrays her normally. Noa is just a special case of somehow earning a completely out of pocket reputation.

blindVigil said:

These things are true, and none of them are relevant. The point of this Noa comparison is that Canon Noa and Fanon Noa are practically two entirely different people. Fanon Noa is completely inaccurate to her canon personality, to the point of being bizarre.

Whether or not Hanako's lewdness is sincere changes nothing. She does shout obscenities in public, she does occasionally walk around in inappropriate attire, and she does make suggestive jokes towards both other students and Sensei. The fandom's depictions of her doing these things is not inaccurate. That she may in fact be doing them as an act doesn't make the fact she does them less true.

It's not an interesting comparison because it happens to literally every sexy character. Half of her art doesn't even come from fans, it's just NSFW artists following trends. She's not even the only BA character to get that treatment. Do you think there's any good reason for Nonomi to be a member of the Dryness Squad?

I honestly don't think the actual BA fandom exclusively portrays her as a slut. Most of that comes from NSFW artists who do that with every character, and half of whom definitely never played the game. Every content creator and meme maker I can think of portrays her normally. Noa is just a special case of somehow earning a completely out of pocket reputation.

Alright, I accept that I was wrong.