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This is for the best because of baffling development (halos and sky rings? Really?) and PR decisions, but as a simple gamer who appreciates anime girls at heart, it's still immensely disappointing. Swords and a historical, feudal setting had the potential to go insanely hard, but now we'll never know.

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    MisterJuice said:

    Fair enough, I just saw some artists enjoying making art of the characters. I was pretty out of the loop with the issues with it.

    I mean, I'm not saying it couldn't have worked out. When I heard about it, I was curious, but didn't have any strong expectations for it. But like I said, with how much of BA's identity they aped, while doing the bare minimum to make their project feel like its own thing, they really needed a strong foundation in some aspect to get people past the "Red Archive" impressions.

    If they weren't creative enough to come up with something more than "Blue Archive but with swords" though, and it really was just that, it's hard to imagine how they were gonna make that sell. It's not like they even needed the halos, certainly didn't need the sky rings, probably didn't need to be an academy city type setting, probably didn't need to be a sensei (the korean word they used is virtually interchangeable with the korean word for sensei). At that point you really are just expecting that existing BA fans are gonna flock to you because you're selling a near identical product, right? And, uh... BA fans are pretty loyal, as it turns out.

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    MisterJuice said:

    Fair enough, I just saw some artists enjoying making art of the characters. I was pretty out of the loop with the issues with it.

    Most of the controversy was pretty much heresay and speculation. Not really anything tangible Just like gameplay and story for Project KV so it was mostly internet rumor mill with BA fandom vs Nexon hatedom PvP. iirc Isakusan said he wished the current BA team well in a previous interview so I really doubt there's any bad blood.

    All that aside announcing a new game and studio in the same breath as it coming to light you left your previous studio not too long ago is a PR disaster only comparable to the Great Dying. All they had to do was secure funding, develop in secret, and let the community find out on their own and they might've had a success story in spite of controversy similar to what Dark and Darker went through. But they went and killed the golden goose thinking they had a multimedia franchise before they even had a single product, especially with that awful Comiket announcement. Reeks of overconfident auteurs overestimating how much they can handle and underestimating everything else that goes into getting a game out the door.

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    blindVigil said:

    I mean, I'm not saying it couldn't have worked out. When I heard about it, I was curious, but didn't have any strong expectations for it. But like I said, with how much of BA's identity they aped, while doing the bare minimum to make their project feel like its own thing, they really needed a strong foundation in some aspect to get people past the "Red Archive" impressions.

    If they weren't creative enough to come up with something more than "Blue Archive but with swords" though, and it really was just that, it's hard to imagine how they were gonna make that sell. It's not like they even needed the halos, certainly didn't need the sky rings, probably didn't need to be an academy city type setting, probably didn't need to be a sensei (the korean word they used is virtually interchangeable with the korean word for sensei). At that point you really are just expecting that existing BA fans are gonna flock to you because you're selling a near identical product, right? And, uh... BA fans are pretty loyal, as it turns out.

    I think it would've worked out quite well only if it was a spinoff of BA made by subsidiary of Nexon rather than ripoff by an independent company. It would've had an excellent pretense to sell as "BA 1000 years in the past" or something.

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    cralowec said:

    I think it would've worked out quite well only if it was a spinoff of BA made by subsidiary of Nexon rather than ripoff by an independent company. It would've had an excellent pretense to sell as "BA 1000 years in the past" or something.

    A lot of people actually did think it was some kind of viral marketing scheme from Nexon at first, but alas, it was just a few employees that got too full of themselves and thought they could leave and supplant Blue Archive.

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    The source for this and the child post no longer exists, I only was able to upload it because I was the one who ordered it. The artist has since completely retired from the internet, and I genuinely hope he's living his best life. The man was a friend and always will be in my opinion.

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    theGOR said:

    The source for this and the child post no longer exists, I only was able to upload it because I was the one who ordered it. The artist has since completely retired from the internet, and I genuinely hope he's living his best life. The man was a friend and always will be in my opinion.

    So you're saying you're the commissioner of the art? Also, could you give us a name for the artist to credit?

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    zaregoto said:

    So you're saying you're the commissioner of the art? Also, could you give us a name for the artist to credit?

    I am yes, and certainly. He went by 7-cs. He had a longer handle too but I can never remember it.

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    grgspunk078 said:

    That plane and its passengers are not long for this world.

    Nah, knowing Moomer, she'll fly the plane straight into the Bermuda Triangle then it will come out unscathed, though the same cannot be said for the passengers' mentality afterward.

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    blindVigil said:

    Insane rumors or not, you have to admit it wasn't exactly a good look to leave a company, and just weeks later unveil a near identical product to the one you just left, with an amount of work done on it that couldn't have possibly been completed in the time frame between departure and announcement.

    Other than the halo what is identical between Project KV with Blue Archive? I feel like the character comparison with some BA characters is forced. Koito looks more like Taiga. Rei is Doremi's sameface problem. And the other two characters have nothing in common. Both do have simplistic shading, but that's not Blue Archive original.

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    camping5940 said:

    Other than the halo what is identical between Project KV with Blue Archive? I feel like the character comparison with some BA characters is forced. Koito looks more like Taiga. Rei is Doremi's sameface problem. And the other two characters have nothing in common. Both do have simplistic shading, but that's not Blue Archive original.

    -Halos positioned exactly where BA positions them above the head, despite Project KV being Buddhist themed which does have halos but uses a completely different halo design and position
    -Rings of light in the sky
    -Academy city
    -Students with personal unique weapons (swords instead of guns)
    -Player character is sole authority over the girls
    -In Korean the word used for the player character is almost the same as the one used in BA
    -Project KV's story description is just BA's prologue reworded

    And several other things that are just the inverse of something from BA when examined side by side.

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