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Winksu said:

Why won't Hoyoverse flesh out their relationship more? Why do they just focus on trust events between the mc and other characters (such as Jane)?

Sadly because they know sailing ships makes money. And that there are players who wants all the waifus/husbandos for themselves.
So they give you a teaser for relationships but don't dive deeper to satisfy people on both ends. H3I use to just straight up go into the relationships but with Genshin and beyond they learned this method.

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    Winksu said:

    Why won't Hoyoverse flesh out their relationship more? Why do they just focus on trust events between the mc and other characters (such as Jane)?

    In gacha games there must always be ambiguity as to who a character is into, so people who prefer that character with the MC/themselves are satisfied too. They are often the money-makers, after all.
    The only exception I'm aware of is FGO, but that's because that game uses historical figures and as such some canon relationships are inevitable.

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    UNOwens said:

    Sadly because they know sailing ships makes money. And that there are players who wants all the waifus/husbandos for themselves.
    So they give you a teaser for relationships but don't dive deeper to satisfy people on both ends. H3I use to just straight up go into the relationships but with Genshin and beyond they learned this method.

    yeah, I get what you mean. However, correct me if I am wrong, but wouldn't they make money anyway if they appease the part of the community that prefers (for example) Seth and Jane instead of Wise (mc) and Jane? Tbf, I've seen WAY more Seth x Jane artwork than Wise (mc) x Jane artwork.

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    notyourdoorknob said:

    In gacha games there must always be ambiguity as to who a character is into, so people who prefer that character with the MC/themselves are satisfied too. They are often the money-makers, after all.
    The only exception I'm aware of is FGO, but that's because that game uses historical figures and as such some canon relationships are inevitable.

    Ambiguity in gacha games is such a pain...

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    Winksu said:

    yeah, I get what you mean. However, correct me if I am wrong, but wouldn't they make money anyway if they appease the part of the community that prefers (for example) Seth and Jane instead of Wise (mc) and Jane? Tbf, I've seen WAY more Seth x Jane artwork than Wise (mc) x Jane artwork.

    Correcting you not because you're wrong, but because your way of thinking is wrong. You see artwork, artwork is made by artists, unless a great majority of the player base are artists making fanart, your logic wouldn't stand.
    Two, look at the amount of fanart Jane Doe has then compare it to how much Seth has then compare it to how much they have together. Most of Seth's art is either as a group or with Jane, but most of Jane's art don't have Seth anywhere in them. Meaning Jane herself is more popular than the pairing. At least 3 times as much going by danbooru stats.
    Final point, not everyone sees the MC as a stand-in for themselves. I did NOT choose Wise as my MC, I chose Belle. Why? Because Belle is cute, not to self-insert. In Genshin, I chose Lumine for the same reason, if I'm gonna stare at the nicely shaped rear end of a character for hours on end it best belong to someone cute. In Star Rail, I choose......Caelus, simply because his coolness beat out Stelle's cuteness (man has a nice tush, no homo just respect). Point being, artwork featuring Wise I see as.....artwork featuring Wise, not "player character" the ones with the blank or no face to me better show as artwork with a self-insert.
    So yes they will make money if they appease a PART of the community that likes shipping, but that part isn't the whole and you best believe there's more non-shippers than shippers (silent majority thing) who make them far more money keeping the ambiguity. Because I personally didn't even know who Seth was until this specfic fanart and me drawing him in game but you best believe I've known about Jane even before her release.

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    notyourdoorknob said:

    In gacha games there must always be ambiguity as to who a character is into, so people who prefer that character with the MC/themselves are satisfied too. They are often the money-makers, after all.
    The only exception I'm aware of is FGO, but that's because that game uses historical figures and as such some canon relationships are inevitable.

    FGO just doesn't give a damn, if they want to do something they just do it. They keep to canon relationships while also saying "Yeah, but he/she would definitely try to sleep with you if given the chance."

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    FRien said:

    Oh for fuck's sake, she's quitting?

    She's not "quitting" in the sense she's graduating, she's ending all streaming activities but will still be apart of group projects, Her channel and socials will be shut down but announcements of her involvement will be announced on the main channels of Hololive EN.

    This is just what the endstage of burn out is.

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