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Depiction of a real event from the war, excerpt from wikipedia below:

On 5 October 2024, an S-70 was shot down by an air-to-air missile from a Russian Su-57, near Kostiantynivka, in Ukraine.

Together the S-70 and the Su-57 had taken off from Akhtubinsk Air Base 365 miles (587 km) behind the front line for an operational test flight. The drone apparently lost contact with its ground control and flew in the direction of Ukrainian-controlled territory. By the time attempts to regain control had been abandoned, the drone had crossed the front line into Ukraine and, subsequently, the Russian Su-57 deliberately shot it down. Identifiable pieces of the wreckage included a large, fairly intact portion of a wing and burned parts of a UMPB D-30SN glide bomb and a turbofan engine. The crash site was reportedly targeted by a Russian Iskander ballistic missile in an apparent attempt to deny Ukraine and its allies access to the wreckage, but crash site footage indicated that by then the wreckage had been recovered by Ukrainian police for further analysis.

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    TokimekiPoporon said:

    this Cabba vs SSJ4 Gogeta shit is so random
    What even prompted this argument?

    Some people actually think Cabba is on the ssg level that was shown in fukkatsu no f, and since they took the anime as basis because they vegeta and goku were apparently using ssg power and essence in base form after absorbing the god energy, and since Cabba give that Vegeta a fight they upscaled him so much even though that "base form ssg absorbed" was just an anime thing and in the manga has been explained that such thing never happened. So this whole "meme" is just to waste time and make some fans mad and tired; but some people believe Cabba actually has a chance or is superior to ss4 gogeta even though it's common knowledge that the monkey fusion could give a fight to a ssg goku or vegeta, maybe even win, but that's it.

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    M.D said:

    even though that "base form ssg absorbed" was just an anime thing and in the manga has been explained that such thing never happened.

    Technically speaking, it's more complicated than "anime only" and "never explained in the manga". The whole "base form SSG absorbed" thing isn't just in the anime, but also in the original movie, and the manga - as to keep ahead of the anime - just skipped Fukkatsu no F to get to the Universe 6 Tournament arc quicker. While Toyotaro has done a promotional manga for the movie, it didn't get deep enough to cover the material where this factoid was mentioned. I point this out because it's general practice to just assume the events of unadapted material happened as it did at the source (as that's what they'd also do later with Broly), so by that logic Fukkatsu no F must've happened per the movie in the manga continuity. So, it's less that the manga explained that never happened and moreso that the manga never chose to explain it to begin with, allowing it to ignore that and do its own power scaling (i.e. SSG is way more prominent in the manga because it hasn't been outright replaced like in the anime).

    But yeah, the vast majority of this is just people memeing on power scalers.

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    Monsieur_Safior said:

    @M.D:
    Power scaler are a blight on humanity.

    To be completely honest I'm not into power scaling but if I read something I truly like I pay attention and sure, some questions even though they're funny at first stop being like that when you understand everything around it, it eventually becomes a bit boring yes, but today's sense of humor did went a bit downhill but that's not up to me to judge

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