Has there ever been a case of an ex-Hololive member's "new identity" collaborating with a current Hololive member? I can see where doing that would be troublesome in the context of how VTuber identities are usually treated, but I feel like Hololive is about to be (or has already gotten) caught in a vicious cycle where the more people leave Hololive, the more motivation there is to leave Hololive just so that you can continue to publicly associate with people you've probably formed an incredibly close bond with. As ex-Hololive talents become increasingly common in the wider VTubing world, Hololive will feel more and more like a walled garden where you'll have a hard time making any connections other than with other Hololive members - because even if you start collabing with a non-Holo VTuber who's not ex-Holo, what happens when they have other friends who are, and now they have to make sure the streams don't cross when trying to set up larger collab events? Being a part of Hololive will feel more and more like a limitation rather than an opportunity, and more people will choose to leave Hololive because of that, resulting in even more ex-Holos and thus the problem getting even worse.
If COVER corp doesn't change their tune on past identities really soon, I fear that Hololive graduations are only going to get more and more frequent, to the point where I wouldn't be surprised if Hololive more or less totally disbands by 2030.
No, but the vast majority of departures happened in the last 9 months. Previously, it was only Coco who remained an active streamer (that wasn't terminated).
Edit- Now that I think of it, does KSon collab with anyone outside of the occasional one-offs?
Has there ever been a case of an ex-Hololive member's "new identity" collaborating with a current Hololive member? I can see where doing that would be troublesome in the context of how VTuber identities are usually treated, but I feel like Hololive is about to be (or has already gotten) caught in a vicious cycle where the more people leave Hololive, the more motivation there is to leave Hololive just so that you can continue to publicly associate with people you've probably formed an incredibly close bond with. As ex-Hololive talents become increasingly common in the wider VTubing world, Hololive will feel more and more like a walled garden where you'll have a hard time making any connections other than with other Hololive members - because even if you start collabing with a non-Holo VTuber who's not ex-Holo, what happens when they have other friends who are, and now they have to make sure the streams don't cross when trying to set up larger collab events? Being a part of Hololive will feel more and more like a limitation rather than an opportunity, and more people will choose to leave Hololive because of that, resulting in even more ex-Holos and thus the problem getting even worse.
If COVER corp doesn't change their tune on past identities really soon, I fear that Hololive graduations are only going to get more and more frequent, to the point where I wouldn't be surprised if Hololive more or less totally disbands by 2030.
With how many of the recent wave of graduates citing "disagreements with management" were from the earlier gens of their respective branches, I get the feeling some of the old guard was just suffering from burnout. The fact that literally no one was prepared for EN to blow up as much as they did during the pandemic probably didn't help matters though
Yeah the "disagreements with management" is just to redirect the hate away from the talents and towards the company and easen the burden from them leaving. Burnout, stress, health issues, pressure and expectations are huge, I hope Gura takes a well deserved recovery, her mentioning stress getting so bad she would not eat or sleep is very rough to hear.
Part of me hopes Cover has EN5 and JP7 in the works. In the span of less than 9 months, they've lost (or losing) Ame, Fauna, Mumei, Gura, Aqua, Chloe, and Shion. Go back a little further and you can add Mel too. That's enough talent for a generation in each EN and JP.
And how long has it been since ID3 debuted? I still believe we're way overdue for a new gen there too.
