Nipples tag implications (ATTENTION, "proficient taggers"!)

I've been planning to start such topic for quite a while, so... Ahem!

There seems to be a lot of tags that should be implicated to nipples, but are not, at the moment. And since there are quite a few of them, and some of these tags' need to be implicated is debatable, I'm just posting a link to a somewhat generalized tag search request: *nipple*

So, it would be nice if some of Danbooru's kind sires who happen to possess a doctoral degree in Tag Implications (because I don't) could take their time to sort the issue out. Thanks in advance.

Oh, and one more thing. Dear "proficient taggers" et al.,

No offense, and sorry for the caps. I'm just so much tired of this.

LOL

Well, most of those can/should be implicated. The exceptions are bandaids_on_nipples, covering_nipples, nipple_censor, nipple_tassels and no_nipples since in those cases the nipples there are either not visible or nonexistant.

The exceptions are bandaids_on_nipples, covering_nipples, nipple_censor, nipple_tassels and no_nipples

I'm pretty sure dick_nipples are also from another league :3

Type-kun said:

I'm pretty sure dick_nipples are also from another league :3

Of course, but those are still visible... nipply somethings?

I don't agree with any of the suggested *nipple* -> nipples implications. I looked through most of the tags, and they all seem fall under one of these categories:

• The tag is already implicated to nipples.
• The tag has too few posts to bother with.
• The tag should not be implicated because it can apply to either (clothed) erect_nipples or (nude) nipples. Implicating them all to nipples would mistag the posts where the nipples are covered in clothing. For example, huge_nipples sounds like it would make sense to implicate to nipples, but there are posts like post #966791, post #192876, or post #264171 where the nipples are clothed.

As I said before, some of these tags' need to be implicated is debatable.

Toks said:

• The tag is already implicated to nipples.

Currently, there are only 3 tags implicated: dark_nipples, inverted_nipples and nipple_slip. (https://danbooru.donmai.us/tag_implications?search[name_matches]=*nipple*)

Toks said:

• The tag has too few posts to bother with.
• The tag should not be implicated because it can apply to either (clothed) erect_nipples or (nude) nipples. Implicating them all to nipples would mistag the posts where the nipples are covered in clothing.

Hmm, for one, nippleless_clothes (248 posts as of moment of writing) tag doesn't seem to meet "covered in clothing" criterion at all. As for the other ones, there are very few "clothed" cases, actually.

But well, I see your point. Anyway, my primary objective was to draw the taggers' attention to this problem, since quite a few users often forget to add nipples tag to images. So, once again:

TAG THE NIPP'S, FOR GOD'S SAKE!

D'Eye said:

Hmm, for one, nippleless_clothes (248 posts as of moment of writing) tag doesn't seem to meet "covered in clothing" criterion at all.

I don't think that should be implicated to nipples either, but for a different reason: It's possible for nippleless clothes to be visible even when the nipples themselves aren't. For example, in post #1395741 the nipples are out of frame, even though you tell that her clothes would expose her nipples, if they were on screen.

D'Eye said:

But well, I see your point. Anyway, my primary objective was to draw the taggers' attention to this problem, since quite a few users often forget to add nipples tag to images. So, once again:

TAG THE NIPP'S, FOR GOD'S SAKE!

I don't think it's that serious an issue when 91% of the posts returned by the *_nipples post search you linked earlier are tagged with either nipples or erect_nipples.

But yes, there are some posts missing the appropriate *_nipples tag; I would just recommend tagging those when you come across them.

I mostly agree with Toks. I took a look through all the tags and found very few cases for an implication (but a lot of tags that need manual cleaning).

(TL;DR summary: I wouldn't add any new aliases but small nipples and maybe huge nipples.)

Already done:

• dark nipples
• inverted nipples
• nipples slip

Fair cases for an implication:

• huge nipples: Probably could imply nipples since it doesn't apply unless you can at least see the areolae, and huge areolae can cover the posts where the full nipple isn't visible.
• small nipples: Probably should imply because you can't tell the difference between this and no nipples without seeing them.

Weird cases where you'd *think* an implication would be merited, but...

• dick nipples: As Type-kun says, arguably their own league. They often seem to be nipple replacements rather than nipples types.
• nipple penetration: See posts like post #1198097 & post #401204, which could be argued as mistagged, or post #71219 involving a goo girl.
• nippleless clothes: Theoretically possible to use with the no nipples tag. (Probably humorous images only.)
• spread nipple: Seems like a semi-horror tag that requires you to see the nipple, but post #1204965 could be done under clothes in theory.

Covering / absent nipples (thus, no implication):

• bandaids on nipples: post #1446830, post #1453726
• covering nipples
• nipple censor
• nipple tassels: Only 2 posts, but just a subtype of pasties.
• no nipples

Can be seen/done through clothes, e.g. on erect nipples, or on people with no visible nipples:

• nipple biting: post #1051402
• nipple clamps / nipple torture: post #496219
• nipple licking / sucking mail nipple: post #252709 simply doesn't draw them.
• nipple piercing / nipple rings / nipple chain / nipple leash: post #669380
• nipple bar / nipple bells / nipple hooks / nipple jewelry: Each is a minimally populated type of nipple piercing. The same logic above applies.
• nipple press: post #1456428
• nipple tag: Top two of loli post #517672. (Damn, what a depressing set of images...)
• nipple tweak / nipple pull: post #892554. Also check out post #1451554 with no nipples.
• nipple vibrator: post #1370597
• nipple-to-nipple: post #1371240
• puffy nipples: post #1454993
• tied nipples / nipple ribbon: the left half of post #1257782, post #225456

Probably needs to be an alias for another tag:

• nipple grab -> nipple tweak or nipple pull
• nipple rub -> nipple tweak

Too few posts to tell or to merit an implication.:

• nipple tongues: 1 post. (Holy fuck, why does that exist?)
• penis to nipple: 5 posts. Could in theory be done through clothes.
• stick nipples: 2 posts. Ditto. (Seems to be a subtype of erect nipples.)
• symbol-shaped nipples: 1 post. Ditto. (I created the tag, actually.)

Toks said:

But yes, there are some posts missing the appropriate *_nipples tag; I would just recommend tagging those when you come across them.

*sigh*

That's what I'm doing pretty often as of late... And I can't say I'm very happy about it.

BCI Temp said:

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Now THAT's some fine material for a doctoral dissertation in Tag Implications.

Thanks for your input, guys.

D'Eye said:

*sigh*

That's what I'm doing pretty often as of late... And I can't say I'm very happy about it.

Yeah, I hear you. I've been on a tagging slog myself for the past two weeks. At least most nipples images can be caught and fixed with a tag script and thumbnails without having to load up each image to play "Where's Waldo?" for minor details. Still, it's kind of boring to do.

Now THAT's some fine material for a doctoral dissertation in Tag Implications.

Thanks for your input, guys.

Thanks. It was a good diversion from what I was working on at the time, and I saw some interesting stuff to check out later.

BCI_Temp said:

• symbol-shaped_nipples: 1 post. Ditto. (I created the tag, actually.)

Pardon my nit-picking that entire post to point out a single thing, but wouldn't that be symbol-shaped areolae, rather than symbol-shaped nipples?

(Off-topic)

Well, nipple as a tag generally covers the whole thing when visible, with areolae being used for when only they're visible. You don't use both for the same person's breasts.

It is theoretically possible for the nipple itself to have a weird shape while the areolae are round, but it's also possible to have just the symbol-shaped aerolae visible while the nipple is hidden. So, it's mostly a coin-toss as far as I'm concerned. I just went for nipple because it's easier to remember, and there are far more nipple tags than areola ones.

By the way, could someone of those in power be so kind as to make this topic sticky for a few days?

Just to raise awareness of this under-tagging issue.

D'Eye said:

By the way, could someone of those in power be so kind as to make this topic sticky for a few days?

Just to raise awareness of this under-tagging issue.

This isn't as large an issue as you're making it out to be. Nipples doesn't seem under-tagged to me, not to mention that it's not a hugely important tag in the first place.

Why do you consider it an issue?

D'Eye said:

By the way, could someone of those in power be so kind as to make this topic sticky for a few days?

Just to raise awareness of this under-tagging issue.

You're appealing to the wrong people. The 0.000001% of Danbooru users who do browse the forum usually tag nipples. It's the people who wouldn't even see the sticky if it were there that don't tag.

Toks said:

This isn't as large an issue as you're making it out to be. Nipples doesn't seem under-tagged to me, not to mention that it's not a hugely important tag in the first place.

Why do you consider it an issue?

As of late, I often encounter images where nipples are visible, but aren't tagged. That effectively breaks my blacklist (and not only mine, I suppose). Moreover, there are at least a few priveleged (and the like) users who constantly forget to tag images appropriately.

Also, you seem to be somewhat belligerent towards me. I wonder why.

S1eth said:

You're appealing to the wrong people. The 0.000001% of Danbooru users who do browse the forum usually tag nipples. It's the people who wouldn't even see the sticky if it were there that don't tag.

I see your point. Well, never mind then.

From the list the only clear implications are:
create implication huge_nipples -> nipples
create implication small_nipples -> nipples

And they're done.

I disagree with the implications due to Toks's example:

Toks said:

• The tag should not be implicated because it can apply to either (clothed) erect_nipples or (nude) nipples. Implicating them all to nipples would mistag the posts where the nipples are covered in clothing. For example, huge_nipples sounds like it would make sense to implicate to nipples, but there are posts like post #966791, post #192876, or post #264171 where the nipples are clothed.

None of the implications are clear. Stick to manual.

Removed, though it seems kinda silly to have one and not the other when all the tag is, is a size modifier.