Pools that should be tags

Schrobby said:

True, and for those we already have tags, alternate_wings, alternate_weapon etc.

I thought "elaborate" comprises richness in detail in whatever regard. Anyway, "elaborate" is just a suggestion, better alternatives are welcome.

I figured we might. Still, when the time does finally come, it won't be as simple as just tagging everything in those pools with a single new tag.

The two words are very similar, and ultimately it's a nitpick over connotation. An even harder to discern difference would be between "elaborate" and "intricate." Again, it's a judgment call. Ultimately, my motivation in arguing was simply that I preferred a word over another for how it sounded.

Casual Nudity seems easy to convert into a tag. And the criteria seems to be pretty clear.

pool #1340 "Down & Out"

Whole pool can be replaced with the flaccid tag or flaccid after_sex search.

Kikimaru said:

pool #1340 "Down & Out"

Whole pool can be replaced with the flaccid tag or flaccid after_sex search.

The after_sex tag states its after intercourse, though the tags that implicate it are after_anal and after_vaginal, but even covering both concepts the pool seems to be much broader in concept. The pool is open to essentially any depiction of a flaccid penis after stimulated to the point of ejaculation, so the pool is currently much broader in concept than the after_sex tag covers. Also the flaccid tag is a much broader tag than the this pool, and something like post #1908957 is flaccid but it is not what this pool is covering. Going further than that a post can be both flaccid and after_sex and also not qualify for this pool. Something like post #1760588 depicts a flaccid penis and even depicts after sex, but it doesn't make any indicators that the flaccid penis was the one involved and "out" due to use.

I think you'd have a better time arguing the pool could be replaced with a new tag, than replaced with existing tags.

pool #1048 "It's Dangerous to Go Alone! Take This."
Could be converted to a tag, just as we have tags for various other memes and macros.

pool #2059 Perverted Girls -> female_pervert

This came to mind again since I'd like to have the Pixiv term 変態淑女 linked. Any objections to doing it now? Homura can still be kept as a separate pool excluded from the tag.

EB said:

This came to mind again since I'd like to have the Pixiv term 変態淑女 linked. Any objections to doing it now? Homura can still be kept as a separate pool excluded from the tag.

I did the move.

Sorry, but anyone can give me the list of pools that got transformed into tags? I want to put those into my saved searches / subscriptions. Thanks.

pool #9214 Ganbaruzoi Parody > ganbaruzoi_parody

It's more suitable as a tag, and has pixiv tag 今日も一日がんばるぞい! so it can be linked.

Sacriven said:

Sorry, but anyone can give me the list of pools that got transformed into tags? I want to put those into my saved searches / subscriptions. Thanks.

pool #3160 -> muscular_female
pool #2059 -> female_pervert

EB said:

This came to mind again since I'd like to have the Pixiv term 変態淑女 linked. Any objections to doing it now? Homura can still be kept as a separate pool excluded from the tag.

Does Homura really need her own pool? female_pervert akemi_homura is mostly the same thing especially if the abundace of her pool is moved to the tag.

Suggesting pool #3171 -> female_pervert

bitofhope said:

Does Homura really need her own pool? female_pervert akemi_homura is mostly the same thing especially if the abundace of her pool is moved to the tag.

Suggesting pool #3171 -> female_pervert

-1. this has been discussed before. not only akemi_homura's pool so large, but female_pervert akemi_homura search fails to filter out if homura is the object of perversion. homura, the victim, will be lost in this search, and try it to believe.

bitofhope said:
female_pervert akemi_homura is mostly the same thing

It's not supposed to be. That tag search is meant to turn up examples of either 1) Homura being the target or bystander of another girl's perversion or 2) other girl(s) simultaneously being perverted with Homura (the latter should have both the "female pervert" tag and be in the Homura pool, allowing you to filter either 1 or 2). Finding either of those things becomes much more difficult if Homura is not a strictly separate pool because it is such a common thing in fanart.

ghostrigger said:

-1. this has been discussed before. not only akemi_homura's pool so large, but female_pervert akemi_homura search fails to filter out if homura is the object of perversion. homura, the victim, will be lost in this search, and try it to believe.

It still seems very unintuitive to exclude such a large number of relevant posts from the tag, when people search for female_pervert they'd expect all the posts to be there and not be separated arbitrarily by character.

We could just include Homura in female_pervert but also keep the pool without deleting it, so if there are people that want to search for that they can search female_pervert akemi_homura -pool:3171

Toks said:

We could just include Homura in female_pervert but also keep the pool without deleting it, so if there are people that want to search for that they can search female_pervert akemi_homura -pool:3171

That's a good approach to use, and perhaps should be how we generally approach other similar pools.

Toks said:

It still seems very unintuitive to exclude such a large number of relevant posts from the tag, when people search for female_pervert they'd expect all the posts to be there and not be separated arbitrarily by character.

We could just include Homura in female_pervert but also keep the pool without deleting it, so if there are people that want to search for that they can search female_pervert akemi_homura -pool:3171

It still feels like arbitrary special treatment of one character, but makes more sense to me than the current one. akemi_homura ~female_pervert ~pool:3171 is still mostly images of Homura being the pervert. Looking for pictures of Homura getting molested by other girls would be more sensibly achieved with female_pervert akemi_homura role_reversal but I'm not sure if fanon perversion counts as role_reversal.

Could pervert_homura be a tag implicating pervert (but not female_pervert since genderswaps etc.) since it's a meme and those are usually tags? Solves the problem of her taking over the tag since one can just use female_pervert -pervert_homura. It can't be too subjective either, since perversion itself is now a tag.

I know the old argument that letting Homura in will have her dominate the entire pool/tag, but -tag searches exist for a reason. Wouldn't it be like having a pool for hakurei_reimu wearing detached_sleeves?

Toks said:

We could just include Homura in female_pervert but also keep the pool without deleting it, so if there are people that want to search for that they can search female_pervert akemi_homura -pool:3171

Doesn't work for example #2 above, which female_pervert pool:3171 can be used to find right now (there's almost three pages of it even, and can't be searched for otherwise). I guess one way around it would be to have a tag (not just limited to Madoka) for when multiple characters are being perverted.

EB said:

I guess one way around it would be to have a tag (not just limited to Madoka) for when multiple characters are being perverted.

Is that even necessary? There's a reason why we have plural-to-singular aliased tags.

tapnek said:

Is that even necessary? There's a reason why we have plural-to-singular aliased tags.

There is a distinction between dual_persona and multiple_persona, and also mutual_*, group_*, shared_*, etc. (any number of tags that are added only when more people are involved).

The tag is gonna be something like multiple perverts, I assume. We still have to account for males though.