Donmai

Pointless Pools

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I see 2:
first :
only Hazuki saying that Homura is more often depicted as perverted then other girls. (not that it matters)
second :
repurpose the pool? (power abuse)?,
new pool can be used for all characters,
why does yukari have a solo pool? (focus switches to this pool)
expand yukari pool to all characters?
then everyone gets sidetracked and starts discussing other pools

third :

EB said:
The "perverted Homura" thing is so widespread that keeping it separate from "perverted girls" does have its uses. It makes it to where it's much easier to find the images where the OTHER girls from Madoka Magica are being perverted, particularly Madoka.

sgcdonmai said:
Even though it's possible to use a pool:2059 akemi_homura search to narrow the pool's extent down to those images in the Perverted Girls pool which contain Homura, it's still not precise enough for the desired functionality, as that search could just as easily return images which contain Kyouko perving on Sayaka, with Homura in the background blushing at the display and not part of the action at all.

The theme of Homura acting perverse has produced a sufficiently significant amount of fanart that, coupled with the otherwise difficult prospect of searching by tags, it kinda does need to have its own pool.

I'm thinking of removing all instances of the word "Touhou" from pool #4944 - Touhou - Feral Instincts because I really think this works for many animal characters of other copyrights, such as nekomusume in post #414236.
Any objections?

There are 2 things, though.
1. I don't understand the pool's exception number IV
1. There is also a feral tag with 7 posts and no wiki.

(EDIT: Should this pool allow overlap with the domestic Lovely Pet Girls pool #1394?)

I'm still waiting for any responses to the reports of some pools from page 51 (please read all reports on that page, not just the 2 examples I give here):

pool #4347 - Touhou - Ears off!
which has never gotten more than 1 post.

pool #3160 - Muscle girls
just read their argument. muscle and toned images. -male if you want to eliminate noise, but toned is already dominated by females. muscle I don't know, someone would have to tag the males so we can determine which gender is the majority. muscular_female tag was suggested as well, if something like that is really necessary.

(EDIT2: Should these 2 pools be merged?
pool #4128 - Behind the Scenes
pool #1765 - Touhou - Costume Examination
I know that the latter currently has the restriction of having to be tagged 東方装束考 on pixiv, but as many already know, these "pixiv projects" aren't as much closed projects, but tags can be retroactively applied to any posts (old or future posts) by anyone, meaning I could go to the pixiv page of post #466922 and tag it 東方装束考. This has always been a gripe that I've had with those pools, that their purpose is only to mirror pixiv tags which are subject to their users tag edits (and even trolls and vandalism) instead of only their artists'. They aren't really projects, it's just the way pixiv tags work. They often make redundant tags like these (which we would never do) that are used for some time and then forgotten. (some images in pool #1765 are not tagged 東方装束考 on pixiv, danbooru users just put the images in there because they fit the theme)

The concept of "Behind the Scenes" may be too broad, but I think we could have a general costume examination pool or even tag for all copyrights. The closest tag we have today is character_sheet, which applies to a few, but not all posts.

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S1eth said:
I'm thinking of removing all instances of the word "Touhou" from pool #4944 - Touhou - Feral Instincts because I really think this works for many animal characters of other copyrights, such as nekomusume in post #414236.
Any objections?

In my opinion, this is fine, it should indeed be broadened.
As for exception IV, it may be because Ex-keine is a hakutaku, which might not be considered an animal by some so let's just say it's a confirmation or something, i guess.

feline_lump said:
I don't think it's pointless. The pool is about pictures featuring characters grouped together because of their hair color, which is a fairly common motif in fanart.

We should call it Matching Hair Colors or something then. Hair colors is a terrible name.

Whatever the name will be, I just want to make sure that unlike other *_connection tags, this tag should not be used if there are just 2 character with the same hair color (all the Yuuka x Wriggle images), at least not unless there is a giant "GREEN" in the image or something like that.

S1eth said:
pool #5110: Touhou - The Neko Sisters

Called it on page 54 and now someone created it.
Totally pointless since it's a chen kaenbyou_rin toramaru_shou tag search well within the 6 tag limit.

You're just a little bit off with your suggested search, the pool is more a chen kaenbyou_rin toramaru_shou -everyone search. Everyone posts actually make up the lion's share of the results for the search you suggested (5 out of 7 pages worth). Which I think kinds of proves the point that just because the image has all 3 tags, doesn't mean they're the focus of the image.

I'm honestly inclined to say keep the pool though, because I imagine it's only a matter of time before some other member gets added to the group and the search will just end up getting more and more complicated as time goes on. Although I do think the posts in the pool should only focus on the cat-type characters, so post #1060216 and post #775493 should be removed from the pool.

If you really wanted to generalize the pool, we'll at least need to make two different pools that cover similar but slightly different depictions. One pool to cover mixed collections of animal characters (ie images that are just the animal characters in general, btw this doesn't already exist? Seems like it should) and another pool to cover specific animal themed animal character collections.

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