Donmai

single/multi page comic

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to quote the site's owner, evazion, in the discord:

like we don't even have a way to distinguish funny joking comics from serious action comics
or posts that are one page out of a long multi-page comic, versus posts that are single standalone pages

i wouldn't know how to tackle the first part regarding the genres, but the second part speaking of the length of the comics sound simple enough. i believe it'd be worthwhile to follow that idea

would it be alright to go ahead and start?

Just to give a bit of greater context surrounding that quote, a greater debate surrounding tag practices on Danbooru involving evazion and other users commenced, which I won't bother representing here because I imagine sooner or later it'll get its own thread on the forum so that the entire site can discuss. The important part is that evazion distinguishes between low-search and high-search tags, and further between low-information and high-information tags, and believes taggers are focused moreso on low-information, low-search tags than they are on high-search high-information tags, for a variety of reasons. In this light, he brings up comics:

we don't even have a way to categorize comics on the most basic level, like what they're about or what genre they're in...

With what sinning quoted thereafter. The issue on comic length is one that I've been involved in to some extent, as it is adjacent to the discourse surrounding 1koma, since topic #23117. I've had to make both segmented comic and splash page to cover some of the things people were mistagging 1koma as, along with listing other alternate tags for things people are tagging.

On the issue at hand, having tags to distinguish comic length would actually be of significant use, and would potentially encourage some comic gardening to begin with. Sometimes it feels like people just use comic and the *koma tags based on vibes and not whether they make sense for either because most folks don't engage with a single comic in their goddamn life. Year 1 & Year 2 (Squid Game) (Meme) has some posts which have been slapped with 2koma because "it consists of two panels so it counts as 2koma despite it just being two redrawn screenshots of before and after which isn't exclusively a comic thing", you have posts such as post #8691899 being hit with comic because "it has speech bubbles, only comics have speech bubbles, so it is a comic", and so on. A general comic clean-up effort has been a long time coming, and something like taking comic length would the perfect opportunity for that.

Genre feels like it would require a bit more familiarity with the language a given comic is in, or more translation, so that might be more difficult to achieve without potential mistags, I think. Still, genre is an objective measure, so it should be possible too.

there's also a difference in comic complexity, in many ways

one of those ways - *komas are generally characterized by evenly-sized panels, with very minor deviations, if at all (like merging two panels into one on one page), like post #8581903, but other types of comics have more complex shapes, like post #7608008. this is somewhat related to genre - action comics are more likely to have more complex panelling, while i'd associate 4koma with light comedy and slice of life series like from manga time kirara

another, more relevant to the topic: even the divide between single/multi doesn't seem to cut it. post #8581903, post #8598951 and children, pool #13133, pool #12768 are all comics - yet their volume varies enormously. the first is just a single page, the second is a couple, but still not really the amount i'd imagine printed out, the third is a single-volume one-shot - a little small compared to professionally published manga, but decently sized for a doujin, and the last is a series of nine volumes with about 170 pages each (as published on Amazon, not sure where the 30 volume composition in the pool description comes from). the narrative arcs and plot complexity each of those sizes can hold varies immensely

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