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BUR #33308 has been rejected.
remove implication madou_monogatari -> puyopuyo
create implication puyopuyo -> madou_monogatari
create implication madou_monogatari_ars -> madou_monogatari
create implication sei_madou_monogatari -> madou_monogatari
Madou Monogatari is the main series. Puyo Puyo is the spinoff.
Tentative upvote.
Madou Monogatari is basically a dead franchise and not owned by Sega the current owners of Puyopuyo and all the original Madou characters.
Compile the OG creators went bankrupt and sold the original rights but has since come back and made Madou games not using Arle or any of the more recognizable characters. These games have been localized as Sorcery Saga
We have no fan art of their attempts to resurrect the franchise but I still don't like the idea of non-Puyo characters being implicated to Puyo.
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zetsubousensei said:
These games have been localized as Sorcery Saga
We have no fan art of their attempts to resurrect the franchise but I still don't like the idea of non-Puyo characters being implicated to Puyo.
@zetsubousensei isn't sei madou monogatari the remake you talked about?
I'm struggling to follow this copyright. If I understood this correctly:
Does PuyoPuyo have characters that are not in the original madou monogatari? Because that might be an argument to split the two series.
nonamethanks said:
@zetsubousensei isn't sei madou monogatari the remake you talked about?
I'm struggling to follow this copyright. If I understood this correctly:
- madou monogatari is the original
- sei madou monogatari is the sequel made by the original creators
- puyopuyo is a spin-off that became bigger than the original, and is not currently owned by the original creators, but by Sega
Does PuyoPuyo have characters that are not in the original madou monogatari? Because that might be an argument to split the two series.
Yes! Sorry, I didn't see the Sei tag sorry. You have the right idea.
Every character introduced in Puyopuyo Fever onwards is made by Sega and not the original creators.
sabisabi said:
no. and never attempt to reverse madou -> puyo ever again.
i agree with the madou games being implied to madou, though. with the exception of sei madou. sei madou is its own continuity and the only connection it has to madou is the name.
It is it's own set of characters, but it's also a Madou game by the original creators and has the same basic dungeon crawler gameplay. I don't see how it's any different than plenty of other franchises with rotating casts of characters. I'm not exacrly sure how to resolve this BUR my upvote was tentative. The fact renains we have Madou games that are not implied to the Madou tag, and should not be implied to Puyo.
zetsubousensei said:
It is it's own set of characters, but it's also a Madou game by the original creators and has the same basic dungeon crawler gameplay. I don't see how it's any different than plenty of other franchises with rotating casts of characters. I'm not exacrly sure how to resolve this BUR my upvote was tentative. The fact renains we have Madou games that are not implied to the Madou tag, and should not be implied to Puyo.
my brain is scrambled so i sound more mentally unwell than usual. sorry about that.
sei madou monogatari shouldn't be implicated to madou monogatari because they have zero relation to eachother outside of sharing the same name. its made by the original creators yes but they are in no way the same thing.
on the topic, madou monogatari: fia to fushigi na gakkou is something i'm on the fence about. personally i think it's okay to tag as madou
currently, the madou monogatari tag is for references to the madou games and designs from puyo 1/2. i should be allowed to browse the madou tag without seeing modern puyo stuff. by implying puyo to madou, you'll be forced to see sega puyo stuff. i think it's kind of complicated and the discourse hasn't reached english speaking territories yet, but there are definitely people who only like compile-era stuff. there are people who take this incredibly seriously and i think its important to be able to search the madou tag and only see compile-era stuff.
besides, puyo has kind of overtaken madou at this point. doesn't make sense to imply it to what has been basically relegated to a side series
The bulk update request #33308 (forum #317666) has been rejected by @DanbooruBot.
BUR #35171 is pending approval.
remove implication madou_monogatari -> puyopuyo
mass update madou_monogatari -> copyright:puyopuyo_(classic)
create implication puyopuyo_(classic) -> madou_monogatari
create implication sei_madou_monogatari -> madou_monogatari
create implication puyopuyo_(classic) -> puyopuyo
@sabisabi What do you think of this? This would properly split the franchises while still making the compile-era works separate from the Sega era ones correct?
As for the standard of implying one copytag to two separate franchises I'm using project voltage as the precedent.
