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Posts are not deleted for lacking tags. Generally, they should at minimum have an artist tag and a valid source to be approvable, but the other tags won't really make a difference for that. You still have to sufficiently tag all of your posts, even if they're likely to be deleted.
Danbooru obviously helps with archival but it's incidental to the primary feature of the site: Hosting good artwork and with detailed tagging/metadata, upload according to that. However don't let that stop you from preserving an artist you like and sharing the collection to sites that are better suited to it, that's always noble work.
g6672D said:
Danbooru obviously helps with archival but it's incidental to the primary feature of the site: Hosting good artwork and with detailed tagging/metadata, upload according to that. However don't let that stop you from preserving an artist you like and sharing the collection to sites that are better suited to it, that's always noble work.
Any alternative sites you can recommend that will get indexed on Saucenao and other search engines, let you upload art while preserving the commentary, original source, the information about the artist such as their social media links with uploading that is as convenient as Danbooru's, but aren't as strict about tagging? I'm genuinely curious.
nth_color said:
Any alternative sites you can recommend that will get indexed on Saucenao and other search engines, let you upload art while preserving the commentary, original source, the information about the artist such as their social media links with uploading that is as convenient as Danbooru's, but aren't as strict about tagging? I'm genuinely curious.
None that I can think of, Yandre, Sankaku, and Konachan get archived by SauceNAO and TBIB but don't preserve artist data or commentary.
Zerochan isn't saved by SauceNAO but is saved by IDQB. It has artist links but doesn't save commentary.
eshuushuu is saved by IDQB but not SauceNAO, it saves artist links but not commentary.
anime-pictures.net is again saved by IDQB but not SauceNAO, like the others it's only artist links.
Danbooru is the best in my book, and to reiterate I don't think 20 tags takes a lot of time at all when you already have the images lined up. The features like related tags and AI tags for very basic stuff makes it a breeze as well. Very streamlined system :SagaYay:
zetsubousensei said:
Danbooru is the best in my book, and to reiterate I don't think 20 tags takes a lot of time at all when you already have the images lined up. The features like related tags and AI tags for very basic stuff makes it a breeze as well. Very streamlined system :SagaYay:
Now let's be real here, even if you go for the "minimum" 20 tags, other builders will still complain about you, saying that your posts don't have enough tags. And it doesn't take a long time at all only if you have a few hundreds of images or so to post, what if you have hundreds of thousands of uppable images in your backlog while constantly finding more?
Something that has phenomenally helped me speed up how long it me to tag is the Indexed autocomplete + Recent tags calc Tampermonkey script. I recommend it 100%.
nth_color said:
Now let's be real here, even if you go for the "minimum" 20 tags, other builders will still complain about you, saying that your posts don't have enough tags. And it doesn't take a long time at all only if you have a few hundreds of images or so to post, what if you have hundreds of thousands of uppable images in your backlog while constantly finding more?
Because in most cases those 20 tags will be just the basic tags that already are implicit because of i.e. the costume or character tags present, they don't actually add any meaningful value when searching the character.
IMO you shouldn't see tagging as something you have to do while uploading, but as part of the uploading process itself. Sure, it slows it down, but if you didn't have to tag I bet most people would still find a way to have a backlog (I know I would).
You should definitely tag characters and series if the art is not original, source it properly and create proper artist entries if they are not already present. Around 15 general tags is fine as long as you tag anything contentious so that the blacklist function doesn't get circumvented. You won't get banned as long as you don't misrate posts and don't fail to tag frequently blacklisted content. Don't listen to anyone trying to hoist their general tag autism upon you because ultimately aesthetic sense, curiosity and willingness to search for art trumps everything.
Hereinafter said:
Around 15 general tags is fine as long as you tag anything contentious so that the blacklist function doesn't get circumvented.
While this isn't wrong per se, it would be a terrible mindset to have.
One should always strive to do the best and not the bare minimum (which might not even be enough).
nth_color said:
Now let's be real here, even if you go for the "minimum" 20 tags, other builders will still complain about you, saying that your posts don't have enough tags. And it doesn't take a long time at all only if you have a few hundreds of images or so to post, what if you have hundreds of thousands of uppable images in your backlog while constantly finding more?
I barely do 15 tags on average (not counting artist or copyright type tags) and nobody has ever complained. If you hit all the key stuff, people don't care.
Freshblink said:
I barely do 15 tags on average (not counting artist or copyright type tags) and nobody has ever complained. If you hit all the key stuff, people don't care.
Don't worry, people definitely notice, but just because something is discouraged doesn't mean it's bannable or even feedback-able. Subpar tagging doesn't influence approvals either, at least not as a rule (some approvers do take it into account, as they are free to do so), but it usually will harm i.e. your chances of getting promoted.
Freshblink said:
I barely do 15 tags on average (not counting artist or copyright type tags) and nobody has ever complained. If you hit all the key stuff, people don't care.
Until the "right" (or maybe in your case "wrong") person looks at your tagging.
岩戸鈴芽 said:
Don't worry, people definitely notice, but just because something is discouraged doesn't mean it's bannable or even feedback-able. Subpar tagging doesn't influence approvals either, at least not as a rule (some approvers do take it into account, as they are free to do so), but it usually will harm i.e. your chances of getting promoted.
It might not be bannable, but one should always seek conversation if you notice such behavior.
One should do their best to strive to tag images as accurately as possible and really, with a little practice and effort it'll become trivial to hit at the very least 20 tags, with reaching higher counts not being too difficult with some work.
Tagging is an essential essence of Danbooru, and is a critical element of the site's very lifeblood; to tag only to a bare minimum is a good way to go against that and will ruin many users ability to find specific posts; what good is there in having a gallery in which you can't actually find anything?
John_Reality said:
One should do their best to strive to tag images as accurately as possible and really, with a little practice and effort it'll become trivial to hit at the very least 20 tags, with reaching higher counts not being too difficult with some work.
Tagging is an essential essence of Danbooru, and is a critical element of the site's very lifeblood; to tag only to a bare minimum is a good way to go against that and will ruin many users ability to find specific posts; what good is there in having a gallery in which you can't actually find anything?
And what's the point of a gallery that doesn't have the picture I'm looking for at all because nobody posted it before it got erased from the internet? Easing on the tag requirements and making it easier to post more images in less time would at least decrease the chances of that happening.
nth_color said:
And what's the point of a gallery that doesn't have the picture I'm looking for at all because nobody posted it before it got erased from the internet? Easing on the tag requirements and making it easier to post more images in less time would at least decrease the chances of that happening.
Who is rushing you? If you have an image saved why act like it needs to be uploaded as soon as possible?
Tagging is not hard either, even pics with lots of tags barely take me 5 minutes to tag, and when uploading the same characters in a row, the related tags cut down the job immensely, sometimes to less than a minute.
nth_color said:
And what's the point of a gallery that doesn't have the picture I'm looking for at all because nobody posted it before it got erased from the internet? Easing on the tag requirements and making it easier to post more images in less time would at least decrease the chances of that happening.
And, as explained in the message you're replying to, destroy a core functionality of this website. If you just want the image preserved at all, maybe use the internet archive, but tagging is a fundamental element of Danbooru after all.
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