Should we have an eeveelution tag?

BUR #23748 has been rejected.

create implication espeon -> eeveelution
create implication flareon -> eeveelution
create implication glaceon -> eeveelution
create implication jolteon -> eeveelution
create implication leafeon -> eeveelution
create implication sylveon -> eeveelution
create implication umbreon -> eeveelution
create implication vaporeon -> eeveelution

Self explanatory. Makes things easier to look for and allows including filtering for wheter eevee itself should be included with as well with *eevee* or eeveelution

You forgot Jolteon, and more importantly, we don't make group character tags.

blindVigil said:

more importantly, we don't make group character tags.

Technically we do, what we've been trying to move away from is overarching group tags.

Damian0358 said:

Technically we do, what we've been trying to move away from is overarching group tags.

Well that's what I meant. Catch-all tags for every Artoria (which I admittedly don't entirely agree with) is different from a catch-all tag for a bunch of semi-related, but ultimately separate characters.

Jolteon added.

Simply searching *eon seems to work well

LQ said:

Simply searching *eon seems to work well

For the most part, but it gets intercepted by Inteleon and Lumineon.

feline_lump said:

For the most part, but it gets intercepted by Inteleon and Lumineon.

Damian0358 said:

Technically we do, what we've been trying to move away from is overarching group tags.

Exactly, and eeveelutions may be considered a characters in the website code but in practice they are almost akin to variations of the same character. Plus as they don't really wear a badge or uniform there is no way for newer members or users not logged in to collectively search for them.

Rather than implying all of the eevolutions to a tag, I think having a tag or pool for a group of eeveelutions in a single post would be useful.

War6t2 said:

Exactly, and eeveelutions may be considered a characters in the website code but in practice they are almost akin to variations of the same character.

We're not jumping through these kinds of hoops to justify the creation of tags that disregard our tagging policies. A general tag or a pool would be okay, if people wanted that, but we've already explained several times in the past why it can't be a character tag.

Obst said:

Rather than implying all of the eevolutions to a tag, I think having a tag or pool for a group of eeveelutions in a single post would be useful.

I'd support this, at least.

Obst said:

Rather than implying all of the eevolutions to a tag, I think having a tag or pool for a group of eeveelutions in a single post would be useful.

We already have evolutionary line

nonamethanks said:

We already have evolutionary line

That only works if all of them are present in this case, or with an eevee.

eevee or flareon or vaporeon or jolteon or leafeon or glaceon or sylveon (or any variation of this search) covers everything that evolutionary line doesn't

I can only see the appeal of a master pool / tag if the series gets to 17 eeveelutions or something. but for now this search isn't too bad

c_spl said:

eevee or flareon or vaporeon or jolteon or leafeon or glaceon or sylveon (or any variation of this search) covers everything that evolutionary line doesn't

That can't be used by everyone though. What is a regular user to do? Just look for two eeveelutions at a time? Defeats the purpose a bit IMO

morriganaensland said:

That can't be used by everyone though. What is a regular user to do? Just look for two eeveelutions at a time? Defeats the purpose a bit IMO

Yeah that's what I'm thinking, impossible for new members and just inconvenient for higher ups. If it wasn't for other pokemon ending in "eon" that could be used but it can't. And it's not like eeveelutions all wear a special uniform that other pokemon do not that you can search for.

War6t2 said:

That only works if all of them are present in this case, or with an eevee.

Wrong. The tag is for pictures centered around evolutionary lines. A picture centered on the concept of eeveelutions that does not have all of them still absolutely qualifies for the tag. A post featuring just vaporeon, flareon and jolteon for example would be perfectly fine under that tag, and you'll find plenty of similar examples under vaporeon evolutionary_line.

nonamethanks said:

Wrong. The tag is for pictures centered around evolutionary lines. A picture centered on the concept of eeveelutions that does not have all of them still absolutely qualifies for the tag. A post featuring just vaporeon, flareon and jolteon for example would be perfectly fine under that tag, and you'll find plenty of similar examples under vaporeon evolutionary_line.

Not really, most results are either vaporeon with all or nearly all eeveelutions and/or with an eevee. It still doesn't fix the above issue of not being able to easily search for them (for instance in solo pictures) as they don't have a suffix exclusive to them or shared unified taggable trait. If they were the only pokemon ending in "eon" that would work but they're not. And it's too many tags for new members to filter out the others while also searching the pokemon_(creature) (Not including that leads to words containing "eon" like "neon" getting included".

Post count for *eon* pokemon_(creature) : 10226
Post count for *eon* pokemon_(creature) -sylveon -jolteon -flareon -espeon -umbreon -leafeon -glaceon -vaporeon : 3847

The bulk update request #23748 (forum #270637) has been rejected by @nonamethanks.

We don't make umbrella tags for vastly different characters like these just because they share a name, and starting now would set a terrible precedent.