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So many missing armor tags.

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BUR #23227 has been rejected.

create implication armored_boots -> armor
create implication armored_skirt -> armor
create implication thigh_armor -> armor
create implication visor_(armor) -> armor
create implication armored_animal -> armor
create implication chest_armor -> armor
create implication hip_armor -> armor
create implication arm_armor -> armor
create implication leg_armor -> armor
create implication body_armor -> armor
create implication saiyan_armor -> armor
create implication armored_leotard -> armor
create implication barding -> armor
create implication bougu -> armor
create implication high-cut_armor_(persona) -> armor
create implication armored_legwear -> armor
create implication multicolored_armor -> armor
create implication reactive_armor -> armor

Post count for *armor* -armor: 12112

BUR #23228 has been rejected.

create implication kirin_(armor) -> armor
create implication nargacuga_(armor) -> armor
create implication kamura_(armor) -> armor
create implication zinogre_(armor) -> armor
create implication rathalos_(armor) -> armor
create implication barioth_(armor) -> armor
create implication lagombi_(armor) -> armor
create implication hermitaur_(armor) -> armor
create implication bnahabra_(armor) -> armor

Wasn't sure if people would like the monster hunter armor sets to be classed as armor so here they are in a separate BUR to vote on.

Is visor (armor) really something that should be always under the armor tag? The definition also doesn't necessarily match the depictions since there are standalone visors not attached to helmets (post #7173975, post #5698751, post #4423506, post #3496779), sci-fi devices (post #6206939, post #6172199, post #6098752), and face shields (post #5673966).

There are also a lot of posts under high-cut armor (persona) that probably shouldn't also be tagged armor.

Reactive armor is also very different visually and how it operates from regular armor that it shouldn't implicate the armor tag.

Meat armor appears to be nothing more than an 18+ version of human shield and shouldn't implicate the armor tag.

edit: The armor tag is honestly a mess, and appears to be used for pretty much anything at this point. It also appears to be used as a padding tag for mecha posts, with over 3k armor mecha posts and over 1/3rd of them also tagged no humans (ex: post #7058437).

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GreyOmega said:

Is visor (armor) really something that should be always under the armor tag? The definition also doesn't necessarily match the depictions since there are standalone visors not attached to helmets (post #7173975, post #5698751, post #4423506, post #3496779), sci-fi devices (post #6206939, post #6172199, post #6098752), and face shields (post #5673966).

Those would've been tagged visor in the past, but the tag was deprecated in topic #22086. It is now split into four tags, including visor (armor). Some of the discrepancies may be due to mistags.

I also noticed that helm also does not implicate armor, which seems to indicate we're treating armor as body armor and helms and other helmets as a separate category (side note: there doesn't seem to be any tag specifically for non-helm medieval helmets).

edit: The armor tag is honestly a mess, and appears to be used for pretty much anything at this point. It also appears to be used as a padding tag for mecha posts, with over 3k armor mecha posts and over 1/3rd of them also tagged no humans (ex: post #7058437).

Tagging the color of a robot/mecha sounds pretty useful to me, at least if they're mainly one or two colors. That might be why some users are using colored armor tags for them. If we create new tags for colored robots/mechas, it might reduce tag pollution for armor.

Blank_User said:

Those would've been tagged visor in the past, but the tag was deprecated in topic #22086. It is now split into four tags, including visor (armor). Some of the discrepancies may be due to mistags.

I also noticed that helm also does not implicate armor, which seems to indicate we're treating armor as body armor and helms and other helmets as a separate category (side note: there doesn't seem to be any tag specifically for non-helm medieval helmets).

Tagging the color of a robot/mecha sounds pretty useful to me, at least if they're mainly one or two colors. That might be why some users are using colored armor tags for them. If we create new tags for colored robots/mechas, it might reduce tag pollution for armor.

Why not just remove the armor tag from mechs as well, it's a part of them and not something they're wearing? I suppose if the mech outs on armor it counts.

GreyOmega said:

Is visor (armor) really something that should be always under the armor tag? The definition also doesn't necessarily match the depictions since there are standalone visors not attached to helmets (post #7173975, post #5698751, post #4423506, post #3496779), sci-fi devices (post #6206939, post #6172199, post #6098752), and face shields (post #5673966).

There are also a lot of posts under high-cut armor (persona) that probably shouldn't also be tagged armor.

Reactive armor is also very different visually and how it operates from regular armor that it shouldn't implicate the armor tag.

Meat armor appears to be nothing more than an 18+ version of human shield and shouldn't implicate the armor tag.

edit: The armor tag is honestly a mess, and appears to be used for pretty much anything at this point. It also appears to be used as a padding tag for mecha posts, with over 3k armor mecha posts and over 1/3rd of them also tagged no humans (ex: post #7058437).

Also thank you for pointing out meat armor, I legit thought it was for doing the armor equivalent of that lady gaga dress. Removed it from the BUR.

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War6t2 said:

Why not just remove the armor tag from mechs as well, it's a part of them and not something they're wearing? I suppose if the mech outs on armor it counts.

If we create colored robot/mech tags and encourage users to tag robots/mechs with the new tags instead of colored armor tags like they're doing now, it logically follows that there would be fewer robot/mech posts mistagged with armor, which is why I said tag pollution for armor would be reduced.

Also, to be clear, I'm referring to robots that are non-humanoid and/or unambiguously mechanical such as in post #7193795. Power armor can still be used for androids if it's not clear it's a part of their body, so it would make sense to still use colored armor tags for them.

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