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Mahou Shoujo ni Akogarete Implications

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BUR #23063 has been rejected.

create implication magia_baiser -> hiiragi_utena
create implication leopard_(mahou_shoujo_ni_akogarete) -> araga_kiwi
create implication nero_alice -> morino_korisu
create implication magia_magenta -> hanabishi_haruka
create implication magia_sulphur -> tenkawa_kaoruko
create implication magia_azul -> minakami_sayo
create implication loco_musica -> akoya_matama
create implication leberblume -> anemo_nemo

Since virtually all posts with the magical girl form of the characters receive their civilian counterpart tag, I believe the former should imply the latter for consistency.

I understand, I was hoping this thread would also serve to discuss it.

My logic may be a bit overly simplistic, but if there's some hidden expectation that including the magia_baiser tag means you should also include her civilian form name, that's very close functionally to a implication. However, if the answer is that no, that the magical girl form does not implicate the civilian form, wouldn't that mean that all posts that did that are incorrectly tagged (unless both forms are present in them)?

Or is it a situation in which 99% of cases the implication works, but the remaining 1% means that it should be done manually?

I think in other MG copyrights you're not supposed to tag the civilian form and the magical form on one pic unless both are present. In practice though, I think many people ignore that, since it's admittedly kind of stupid. If you like, say, Ten'ou Haruka x Kaiou Michiru, you probably won't really care if they're kissing in their normal forms or as Sailor Scouts or one as a civilian one as a scout or some other combination I haven't thought of. And if you did, if there was an implication present, all you'd have to do something like this search (which admittedly uses 5 tags, but to be fair, if you wanted specifically romantic material featuring the two of them you'd have to do a three-tag search, something beyond the scope of Member accounts already). Similar would also theoretically apply to this copyright, I'd imagine.

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I'm not completely against it, but this definitely needs further discussion and input outside the few regular magical girl taggers. I'll quote what I said in topic #23010 for reference, read the whole thread for more context.

magcolo said:

Not sure about the implications, as you mentioned other MG copyrights don’t do it. One reason I can think of is that the civilian tag wouldn’t end up on posts cosplaying the magical girl persona and pollute tag search.

magcolo said:

That was for a different reason, Ultimate Madoka was considered a spoiler back then thus the implication was avoid, but over the time it became a common knowledge and someone went to request a BUR. Not exactly a fitting example for this topic.

I'm not familiar with Sailor Moon, but currently Precure works like this:

  • MG transformed from its canon civilian: civilian tag + MG tag
  • MG transformed from someone else: Mg tag + that random character tag + cosplay
  • Civilian A and civilian B exchanged MG identities: civilian A + MG B, civilian B + MG A (post #5086810 and children)
  • Civilian A in her MG form wearing MG B's clothes: Civilian A + MG A + MG B + cosplay (post #5090043)
  • Civilian in Civilian identity: civilian tag only (post #6003718)
  • Civilian and MG as two entities: dual persona (post #6003795)
  • Civilian form wearing MG clothes: self cosplay (post #5964137)

If we start implicating we might lose some ability to distinguish certain contents, but I'm not sure how strongly others feel about this.

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Your proposal does not work in this case, for the following examples:
Character cosplay as their magical girl form:

https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/7292678
https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/7296023
https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/7161773

And there are more than the above cases, perhaps more to come. As the show has a strong overlap fanbase of yuri subcultures.

Thus, do not make them hard bound, instead provide suggestion in wiki tagging instead, as usual.

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