For the entirety of its history, the Catholic tag has acted as a padding tag for nun posts, even when the post in question is one no one would ever consider actually Catholic. The only reason why I'm not suggesting a full nuke is because there's a chance that some of the posts under this tag might be missing actual tags that'd make them easier to find, like cross necklace, or relevant occupation cosplay tags such as priest, nun or monk.
...or at least the BUR would have the deprecation, if not for the fact that it refused to make that BUR, claiming that a 1.2k tag with a wiki doesn't exist. No clue what's up with that. However, that shouldn't stop me from proposing the second half of the BUR. That being that the majority of the tag consists of just Little Nuns, so with the intent of making the post-deprecation clean-up easier, that can safely be partially nuked via mass update.
The "Latin Rite" is the whole of the patrimony of that distinct particular church, by which it manifests its own manner of living the faith, including its own liturgy, its theology, its spiritual practices and traditions and its canon law. A Catholic, as an individual person, is necessarily a member of a particular church. A person also inherits, or "is of", a particular patrimony or rite. Since the rite has liturgical, theological, spiritual and disciplinary elements, a person is also to worship, to be catechized, to pray and to be governed according to a particular rite.
I'm simultaneously confused and intrigued by your opposition to the tag's deprecation/nuking, uohuo.
Putting aside the fact that the tag is is a nun pad tag (the tag history cannot be denied here), I can only assume that you think there's a legitimate use case for the tag on Danbooru. So let's consider that idea, and expand it out from just Catholicism - why aren't there tags for any other form of Christianity on Danbooru? One could imagine legitimate use cases for such tags, taking post #6800723 as a recent example of a post depicting an Orthodox priest. If we consider religious heritage, we already have a tag for Mormonism, due to post #6514488's depiction of Mormon missionaries. But the fact that we do not have any other actual Christian denominational tags reveals a distinct truth: most Danbooru users do not care to distinguish between Christian denominations and likely don't even know the difference to begin with, whether it be in architecture, attire, behavior, etc. The fact that most seemed fine to tag 'Catholic' on sexy nuns makes that especially clear, doubly-so once you remember there are Protestant nuns (and Orthodox too, but they get ignored in the West), because despite that fact, nuns are associated with Catholicism, even more so when considering the US in this discussion. Given the install base of Danbooru consisting of Americans, it's no surprise then that the first posts that were tagged with the tag were nun posts with nothing suggesting anything concretely Catholic in them (and was nuked from 2010 to 2015 whenever tagged, existing as an obscure tag between 2015 and 2020, only getting traction in 2020 due to Little Nuns).
You'd only be able to maintain Christian denominational tags with a base of users who are unbiased but also religiously knowledgeable, and such users would also call your proposed rename immensely questionable, at bare minimum because there is no one Latin rite. Referring to the Catholic Church as the "Latin Church" is also an immensely pedantic way of sidestepping the issue, and would only inspire a later thread where people demand it be renamed to Catholic or Catholicism because latin_rite_(christianity) is an awful name.
If someone wanted stuff that's related to Christianity, they'd look up Christianity, check the wiki for related tags, and they'd be satisfied with that alone. No one cares enough the individual elements of Christianity to bother maintaining denominational tags.
What is the problem? Just because a tag would only have a few dozen posts, that does not mean it need be nuked or deprecated. Danbooru tagging is according to form and the fact that an protestant priest and a (latin) catholic priest or a (greek) catholic priest and a greek orthodox priest would be indistinguishable is due to the fact that the difference in garments stems not from denomination but from tradition. To use the latin church as term is exactly to distance oneself from arbitrary denominational tagging. Your entire objection about denomination is thusly irrelevant. Yet an alternative to "latin rite" as a tag I would suggest would be "western christianity", as the differentiation between western and eastern christianity is the most well known and obvious. The "nun" tag too is according to form, that being anything resembling the outfit of female members of ascetic orders of any religion. Delving deeper into the nun tag I have not found one single eastern christian nun, yet plenty of examples of untagged buddhist nuns (mostly in the form of kumoi_ichirin. Is there no utility in the tag if not at least to seperate between the two? How would you exclude christian or catholic nuns (using these terms very broadly) in your nun search if not for this "tag padding"?
What is the problem? Just because a tag would only have a few dozen posts, that does not mean it need be nuked or deprecated.
It's not that it would only have a few dozen posts, but that it would never be properly used, which is my point.
Danbooru tagging is according to form and the fact that an protestant priest and a (latin) catholic priest or a (greek) catholic priest and a greek orthodox priest would be indistinguishable is due to the fact that the difference in garments stems not from denomination but from tradition. To use the latin church as term is exactly to distance oneself from arbitrary denominational tagging. Your entire objection about denomination is thusly irrelevant. Yet an alternative to "latin rite" as a tag I would suggest would be "western christianity", as the differentiation between western and eastern christianity is the most well known and obvious.
My objection about denomination remains entirely valid because the tradition is rooted in denomination, and most folks consider rites through denomination. There's a reason why people speak of Catholics and not those following the Roman, Gallican and order rites, so "Latin Rite" would be tagged as arbitrarily as "Catholic" - and you can't substitute it with "Western Christianity" because now you're going beyond even the Latin rites and including Protestant rites. The issue that most folks on this website both don't differentiate and don't care means none such tags would be handled properly.
The "nun" tag too is according to form, that being anything resembling the outfit of female members of ascetic orders of any religion. Delving deeper into the nun tag I have not found one single eastern christian nun, yet plenty of examples of untagged buddhist nuns (mostly in the form of kumoi_ichirin. Is there no utility in the tag if not at least to seperate between the two? How would you exclude christian or catholic nuns (using these terms very broadly) in your nun search if not for this "tag padding"?
Nun itself is a mess of a tag given that it's dominated by sexy nuns and fantasy/fantastical nuns, hence why I pushed for the creation of traditional nun, so that people who want to see non-fetishized nun costumes and slight deviations from them could go there. Most depictions of nuns in the main nun tag are based on Christian nuns, with no one specific denomination or rite used as its source, so given tagging practices, ostensibly the way to "exclude" such nuns from that search would be to make tags for non-Christian-inspired nuns (the proposal for nontraditional_nun failed because that's what most of the main nun tag is, so a proposal for christian_nun would equally fail). Frankly, for a site that is based on reuploading East Asian art, it's surprising that Buddhist nuns at bare minimum did not receive their own tag and are just lumped in with Christian nuns.
It's not that it would only have a few dozen posts, but that it would never be properly used, which is my point.
It's been slightly over a year and I continue to be proven right in how this tag is never used properly. The most recent posts under this tag today were nearly all Luce (Jubilee 2025) posts, and none of them had anything which remotely communicated anything Catholic in them, except for one post, but that's only because the fucking Pope himself is in it (post #8380552).
I'm going to resubmit the deprecation, especially since if people actually want Catholic stuff we could easily make more specific tags for that, or at least, tags which make that stuff easier to find.
There are a handful of posts actually about Catholicism, but I don't know how to make a tag for that without it getting flooded with sexy nuns and other stuff that has nothing to do with actual Catholicism.
The thing I would like to suggest is the creation of two tags, one more pertinent than the other:
1. a tag concentrating on Christian aesthetics: this would essentially focus on depictions of architecture and art typically associated with Christian denominations, or rather, specifically Catholic, Orthodox, etc. because when people think of a church, they'll more often think of an older style church than a modern Protestant church which reflects modern building tendencies. The reason why it would be Christian and not Catholic is because many older Protestant churches, especially in Europe, either were originally Catholic churches or continued on the same architectural tradition, absent elements that they disagreed with.
2. priest sub-tags: putting aside monks (which no one really pays attention to), popes (inherently Catholic), and nuns (whose default on Danbooru is Catholic), it feels like the main other thing that people tag Catholic for is if they think the priest has a Catholic vibe, so we may as well have sub-tags for various denominations: post #5322134 for Catholic, post #6800723 for Orthodox, etc. Chaplains are hard to tag because you can't assume whether or not explicitly associated with a secular institution like a hospital, ala post #5555789.
Something like post #3993215 (rating:e) and post #921840 don't really say anything explicitly Catholic, because, in the former's case, you have plenty of non-Catholic Christians who believe anal circumvents the whole "no premarital sex" thing, and, in the latter's case, Christian schools aren't primarily Catholic (and beside that, unless they use specific religious habits/uniforms, you wouldn't be able to tell they go to a Christian school if they didn't have a cross with them).
