Deprecate some R34-style fetish tags

Most of these tags have a use as long as they're not being overused.

岩戸鈴芽 said:

The problem with the unique tags is that in practice that means it's just hyper-specific, usually fetish tags you would find on R34/E621(-style boards), and this is simply not how Danbooru does tagging. The same goes for pools.

This is the opposite of true. A tag like forced orgasm that describes the entire point of the image is infinitely better than 40 tags describing the character's outfit, most of which people don't actually search for and that don't add any new information not already contained in the character tag.

The bulk update request #20458 (forum #256915) has been rejected by @evazion.

I think I'll maintain that:
Forced lactation is very confusing. It seems to mostly consist of lactation images where the girl is moaning or something. Nobody is touching her boobs in post #3504873. post #3163593 is solo and she's not even touching herself. post #1700032 she is offering her breast milk to the viewer on a literal platter.
I think it's less that the tag is actually bad (though I still feel it might be), but that it is so poorly tagged and gardened that it's useless as is. The difference between "forced" and not seems to be completely missed by the person who created and gardened it in earnest.

Excessive lactation is in a similar boat. Filling a barrel of with spewing breast milk is indeed excessive. But something like post #6703791? That's excessive? Combine with how the tag is such a uselessly low count and how searching projectile lactation has post #6675070 right next to the previously mentioned image...
This one needs significant gardening, but is probably not that bad. Lotta overlap with projectile lactation, so that's a good starting point.

Forced orgasm is weird similar to lactation. A lot of images were added at the same time location was created and I don't think images like post #3312545 should be labelled forced.
Asking horny weebs to differentiate levels of consent on images has always been contentious and I think these two tags put it on full display.

Veraducks said: it is so poorly tagged and gardened that it's useless as is

Some of these tags were messy beforehand, but user #922918 did a hell of a job polluting them. I have no idea why they added forced orgasm to seemingly every post they added forced lactation to. Most of them feature no evidence of orgasm.

I don't have any strong thoughts on what to do with forced lactation, but as a related issue I think we should do something about separating hand milking into milking animal and something for "milking" people. We have milking cow but cows aren't the only animals that can be milked, and post #6254319 is a goat.

Round 2:

Veraducks said:
post #1700032 she is offering her breast milk to the viewer on a literal platter.

That one is considered forced because it is involuntary and physically impossible: common hentai logic. Unless you assume to this to be a common occurrence in her fictional workplace in the image explained with some strange lore.

Destroyerofbread said:
useless as is.

To you maybe. Skill issue perhaps?

Verabadatarguing:
The difference between "forced" and not seems to be completely missed by the person who created and gardened it in earnest.

More effort was put there than this argument.

Canttag4duck said:
Combine with how the tag is such a uselessly low count

Could that have something to do with being new? Or maybe uninterested taggers? Nah.

Beak billingsby said:
how searching projectile lactation has post #6675070 right next to the previously mentioned image...

I've also noticed that many images that have projectile cum posts also have cum tags, coincidence?

Man-bird said:
Excessive lactation is in a similar boat. Filling a barrel of with spewing breast milk is indeed excessive. But something like post #6703791? That's excessive?

You don't consider the entire floor of a large room submerged in an inch of milk excessive? Upon further inspection the bed sheets seem to be almost the exact same color as the milk, and I had low brightness, genuine mistake. 1 point to GRYFFINdor.

100feetfromponds said:
Forced orgasm is weird similar to lactation. A lot of images were added at the same time location was created and I don't think images like post #3312545 should be labelled forced.

Yeah, same as both characters reaching orgasm at the same time in hentai, there might be some reasoning behind that.

Roastedducks said:
Asking horny weebs to differentiate levels of consent on images has always been contentious and I think these two tags put it on full display.

You are proving the opposite.

Redditor #2:

Sightlessspectator said:
Some of these tags were messy beforehand, but user #922918 did a hell of a job polluting them.

Matter of incorrect opinion.

4-eyedsymbol said:
I have no idea

Clearly

why they added forced orgasm to seemingly every post they added forced lactation to.

*See above

Most of them feature no evidence of orgasm.

Have any evidence detective?

I don't have any strong thoughts

This one is just low hanging fruit.

I don't have any strong thoughts on what to do with forced lactation

I seriously doubt that.

Edit: sorry, went full ham.

Can someone in this thread elaborate on why you'd use forced_orgasm instead of rape + female_orgasm? Also I'm going to agree with Vera on not really seeing it in a lot of the posts, I agree it's a hentai trope, but I feel like it'd be best used on comics or images with text.

zetsubousensei said:

Can someone in this thread elaborate on why you'd use forced_orgasm instead of rape + female_orgasm? Also I'm going to agree with Vera on not really seeing it in a lot of the posts, I agree it's a hentai trope, but I feel like it'd be best used on comics or images with text.

There is no rape in posts like post #6715199 or post #5385314, but they're still forced orgasms. Similarly, bondage content such as post #3892973 with consensual or ambiguous interactions still fits the bill, and would be missed in a rape female_orgasm search. Forced orgasms are in many different kinds of posts; a search to find them all would probably be at least six tags long, full of false positives and even then still miss valid posts. Unlike high_heel_boots, for example, forced_orgasm doesn't just replicate a two-tag search for no reason.

zetsubousensei said:

Can someone in this thread elaborate on why you'd use forced_orgasm instead of rape + female_orgasm? Also I'm going to agree with Vera on not really seeing it in a lot of the posts, I agree it's a hentai trope, but I feel like it'd be best used on comics or images with text.

Well, it could probably be used inversely for instances of rape, but its absence noting the lack of orgasm for the victim in the act, as opposed to the usual hentai scene. So by that logic most posts should have it.

I've noticed what often happens with tags like this is they end up being pet tags, glorified favorite groups that don't have any strict definition or moderation, so they turn into "whatever the sole person tagging it feels belongs in it" without much consistency. If something like post #6703791 qualifies for "excessive" lactation then the tag is useless. If there is interest in keeping them, someone should make guidelines on how to use them lest they devolve into that.