Alias off-shoulder_clothes to bardot clothes

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It took a while, but it seems that "bardot" is a fashion term that is synonymous for the more colloquial and familiar fashion term "off-shoulder/off-the-shoulder". Both words are used to refer to tops that are designed with a low and wide-cut neckline exposing the shoulders and upper chest area.

Some examples from Google:

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Sadly, as much as I prefer the more simple and familiar "off-shoulder" term (like everyone else), many people has been mistagging regular clothes worn hanging off the upper arms as "off-shoulder_clothes", despite the fact that the specific off-shoulder clothes tags are supposed to be reserved for clothes with low and wide-cut necklines (which is true in real life fashion terminology); off-shoulder jacket and off-shoulder coat are the worst offenders of this (see topic #17674), likely because some people think the tag applies via going by the tag name instead of checking the wiki for proper usage. Aliasing the off-shoulder clothes tag may be able to mitigate this.

If we are to do this, then we should unimply off shoulder from all of the former off-shoulder clothes tag, and then alias off_shoulder as shoulder slip, and revise the wiki to clarify that shoulder slip should be mutually exclusive from the former off-shoulder clothes tags when referring to the same clothing.

I don't know if we should fix and alias off-shoulder_kimono or just nuke it entirely, since most of the kimonos under this tag look like they can be pulled up and worn normally, and kimonos don't seem to be intentionally designed to be worn hanging off the upper arms; bardot kimono sounds kinda weird.

Actually, should all of the "correct" off-shoulder jacket and off-shoulder coat posts be mass updated to bardot jacket and bardot coat, respectively, instead?

While off-shoulder jacket/coat be aliased to off shoulder (later shoulder slip) in order to "trick" the current mistaggers of off-shoulder jacket/coat into using that instead?

Tbh. I think it's more intuitive to just stick with the off-shoulder_* variant of saying thing.

FYI if you put the mass updates after the alias it won't do anything since the tag will be empty.

I'm reluctant to do this even with the mistagging that off-shoulder causes, simply because bardot seems like a much less well-known term, especially for things that aren't dresses.

Never heard of Bardot Clothes, although obviously know of Miss Bardot. *

Then again I'm not a fashionista although personally finding it unattractive whatever the naming is...

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• Also whilst admiring BB, I'm a France Gall man.

Off-shoulder sounds like over_shoulder to me, something like "neckline below shoulder" would be needed to make it really intuitive.

Some recent Google searching also shows that a "Carmen neckline" is an alternative name for low and wide-cut necklines. Still not sure if it is even a better alternative, or just as worse/less-known as "bardot"? (ie. "carmen shirt" or "carmen neckline shirt"?)

Wikipedia link

Google search link

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Alternative fallback option; if the "bardot" aliases could not go though, and there isn't a viable alternate name for the "off-shoulder clothes" in order to mitigate the consistent mistagging, I could just instead settle with aliasing off shoulder as shoulder slip, and make it so that "shoulder slip" is a tag reserved for clothes (that do not have a low and wide-cut neckline) worn hanging off the upper arms, and is mutually exclusive to "off-shoulder clothes".

Those mass updates do not account for pictures of 2+ characters. post #4913353 and post #4898094 for example both have one character with an off-shoulder shirt and one character with an off_shoulder jacket that's not an off-shoulder jacket.

nonamethanks said:

Those mass updates do not account for pictures of 2+ characters. post #4913353 and post #4898094 for example both have one character with an off-shoulder shirt and one character with an off_shoulder jacket that's not an off-shoulder jacket.

So I guess that means that I have to change the mass update into something like mass update off_shoulder off-shoulder_shirt solo -> off-shoulder_shirt solo?

That way, it would be able to account for posts with more than one character.

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