create implication sleeves_tug -> clothes_grab

BUR #7725 has been approved by @nonamethanks.

create alias sleeve_tug -> sleeve_grab
create alias sleeves_grab -> sleeve_grab
create implication sleeve_grab -> clothes_grab

Consistency with jacket grab and utility aliases.
I would also support the reverse of the first alias.

Somewhat related to forum #199132

It seems strange to alias this to tug then imply it to grab. Wouldn't it be better to have them both be the same?

I also don't see how it's consistent when the tag is jacket_grab and not jacket_tug.

I mentioned that I would support the reverse too, didn't I?
I can reverse the alias if enough people want.

The consistency part was about the implication, which is the main point of this BUR

I prefer the reverse. I think of tug as an action, and in a still image, it's not always clear. Grabbing is much easier to tag.

Reversed.

We have several dozen *_tug tags. If we're changing them we should change them all, not just one.

It doesn't make sense to just switch sleeve_tug to sleeve_grab and leave everything else untouched.

We have clothes tug too btw, which despite the wiki definition is being used for things like post #177295 too.

In Danbooru usage, the *_tug tags were used opposite *_lift and *_pull originally.

• *_lift was for exposure via bringing clothing upward on the body
• *_pull was for exposure via bringing clothing downward on the body

• *_tug was for coverage or adjustment by bringing clothing (usually downward, like to cover the crotch)

Sleeve_tug doesn't fit that paradigm all that well, but it too is non-exposure movement of the clothes.

To me, "tug" is a bit gentler of an action than "grab", and "grab" needn't move the clothes, whereas "tug" kind of does. Otherwise they are close to synonymous.

Well regardless we need to settle on which word we want to keep. The other should be aliased to it for discoverability.
I don't mind either way, but I actually never personally knew about the tug tags before, but I do see where Shinji is coming from here.

Shinjidude said:

• *_lift was for exposure via bringing clothing upward on the body
• *_pull was for exposure via bringing clothing downward on the body

• *_tug was for coverage or adjustment by bringing clothing (usually downward, like to cover the crotch)

Yeah, after looking at the rest of the *_tug tags, it does seem this one is the odd one out. There's some others that have several mistags like cape tug, so these tags definitely need a clean-up.

clothes grab says "Also describes lightly tugging on another character's clothes to get their attention, often by someone who is sad or pouting", but it makes no sense that we only reserve "tug" for something done by oneself while the "other" kind of tug goes into "grab".

I don't see any reason why we shouldn't allow *_tug to be applicable to both the subject and others, so long as the same meaning of covering/adjusting instead of revealing/removing still applies. That still preserves the old Danbooru definitions. That said, I'd also be fine with *_grab in these oddball cases like with sleeves, as they are still more-or-less a very similar meaning in English..

The bulk update request #7725 (forum #199134) has been approved by @nonamethanks.