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BUR #4647 has been rejected.
create alias adjusting_shoe -> adjusting_footwear
create alias putting_on_shoes -> adjusting_footwear
create alias removing_shoes -> adjusting_footwear
Too many synonyms in use. Not enough difference between putting on and removing. Genericizing "shoe" to "footwear" as to semantically include other footwear.
Edit: So I accidentally'd it... Sorry my bad.
skylightcrystal said:
The tags are "removing_shoes" and "putting_on_shoes" not shoe singular.
Yes and?
adjusting_shoes is currently aliased to adjusting_shoe. Perhaps after aliasing to adjusting_footwear, we should remove the adjusting_shoe alias to clean up tag vomit and make it look nicer?
If you're suggesting we should differentiate between singular and plural, "plural" posts where one shoe is removed and the hand is putting on or removing the other shoe are too rare.
Updated
I object to all three of these changes, since there are obvious contextual differences to all three actions. You can tell when a character is getting dressed versus undressed.
Having a super-tag, "adjusting", with sub-variants "removing" and "putting_on" is the best choice. No confusion.
White_Hawk said:
I object to all three of these changes, since there are obvious contextual differences to all three actions. You can tell when a character is getting dressed versus undressed.
Having a super-tag, "adjusting", with sub-variants "removing" and "putting_on" is the best choice. No confusion.
Also, changing "shoes" to "footwear" is a TERRIBLE decision, although it appears to be incidental to this case. Shoes and socks are different garments.
I support moving the tags to the usage of footwear, but there are examples of putting on and removing footwear that wouldn't fit under the term adjusting footwear. post #3170736, post #3491804, and post #4400564 is removing footwear, but it wouldn't necessarily be adjusting footwear. Similarly I think post #2059163, post #2370745, and post #1605385 are putting on footwear that wouldn't necessarily fit adjusting footwear.
Unbreakable said:
Which is why socks go under legwear instead.
I'm having this discussion elsewhere - legwear is far too broad a term for a specific garment redirect, confusing shoes, socks, tights, skirts, pants, shorts, anklets, kneepads and the wazou. Evidence is ample, head over to https://danbooru.donmai.us/forum_topics/18326 - for just the search "red_legwear pants" along, 29 mistags occur across 26 pages.
The dictionary definition for legwear is "hosiery", meaning socks, stockings and tights, but in practice it's used for all items worn on the leg (the literal meaning of leg-wear) evenly. Furthermore, someone searching for socks wouldn't want, say, stirrup tights or footless leggings, and vice versa.
NWF_Renim said:
I support moving the tags to the usage of footwear, but there are examples of putting on and removing footwear that wouldn't fit under the term adjusting footwear. post #3170736, post #3491804, and post #4400564 is removing footwear, but it wouldn't necessarily be adjusting footwear. Similarly I think post #2059163, post #2370745, and post #1605385 are putting on footwear that wouldn't necessarily fit adjusting footwear.
Good post
White_Hawk said:
I'm having this discussion elsewhere - legwear is far too broad a term for a specific garment redirect, confusing shoes, socks, tights, skirts, pants, shorts, anklets, kneepads and the wazou. Evidence is ample, head over to https://danbooru.donmai.us/forum_topics/18326 - for just the search "red_legwear pants" along, 29 mistags occur across 26 pages.
That's 29 mistags out of 496 posts. Really not the groundbreaking evidence of a major problem that you're implying it to be.
NWF_Renim said:
I support moving the tags to the usage of footwear, but there are examples of putting on and removing footwear that wouldn't fit under the term adjusting footwear. post #3170736, post #3491804, and post #4400564 is removing footwear, but it wouldn't necessarily be adjusting footwear. Similarly I think post #2059163, post #2370745, and post #1605385 are putting on footwear that wouldn't necessarily fit adjusting footwear.
Most if not all adjusting footwear posts appear to be in the process of putting on or removing footwear, just nearer to completion of the act than the ones you consider strictly putting on / removing "but not necessarily adjusting". My issue is our language doesn't have a word to specifically encapsulate both putting on and removing footwear.
I had a hard time imagining ways to "adjust" footwear that doesn't involve putting on, removing, or tying shoes. Do people really do a thing in real life often where their foot itches or is being pinched by sock somewhere and they wriggle their shoe without removing at least halfway off to put back on?
The bulk update request #4647 (forum #180348) has been rejected by @DanbooruBot.
Putting on shoes versus removing shoes is similar to dressing versus undressing, which we kept separate despite it sometimes being hard to tell which is which.
