"Open eyes" tag

As I've noticed a number of times, and has been mentioned by iridescent slime before (forum #160194), the open eyes tag is still being misused on characters who canonically don't have one or both eyes closed most of the time. It feels like just having the conditions for using the tag written in the wiki is not going to work since there will always be some taggers who don't read the wiki and intuitively think it's meant to be the opposite of closed eyes which can be used with any character. Are there any suggestions for a tag name that would be more intuitive?

The only thing I could come up with on the fly was something like unusually open eyes which sounds kinda dumb and not really obvious, I agree though that this is a very regular problem and something should be done at least.

"opened_eyes" might be sufficiently different from standard English to make people critically think more about when it should be used, but I'm not sure it's enough.

I liked 7HS’s suggestion for "opened eyes", taggers won’t see it as the exact opposite of closed eyes.

7HS said:

"opened_eyes" might be sufficiently different from standard English to make people critically think more about when it should be used, but I'm not sure it's enough.

I fear that it sounds similar enough (only 2 letters added) that the same users will just tag it without thinking about it.

I have to agree with Unbreakable. The general problem is, that general tags with common names are tagged as what they read, not as they should. When a normal user reads closed eyes and afterwards open eyes he won´t read the wiki, as the name sounds self explanatory. Even when it isn´t. And it gets even worse, when he reads all the other open_* tags, because think about it: why would you read the wiki of open shirt, when it sounds so clear?

Even when the suggestion, that UNB made, sounds worse, it´s still a better tag to prevent the mistagging. So I would rather support a suggestion like that. A new tag shouldn´t start with open.

Guaro1238 said:

A new tag shouldn´t start with open.

Yes, this is what I think would solve it in the easiest way.

I am fine with "unusually open eyes". It would seem unlikely to confuse what it's used for then.

Any preferences on whether this should be an alias or rename?

EB said:

Any preferences on whether this should be an alias or rename?

I think that it should be a rename. Open eyes shouldn´t be aliased or people will maybe still wrongly tag images with that through the alias.
So +1 for rename.

+1 for the rename too

Guaro1238 said:

I think that it should be a rename. Open eyes shouldn´t be aliased or people will maybe still wrongly tag images with that through the alias.
So +1 for rename.

Yes, exactly this, it happened after we aliased text to text_focus, people just kept adding the old tag to posts and it converted over, it's harder to garden as well.

BUR #3431 has been approved by @evazion.

rename open_eyes -> unusually_open_eyes

Good points on rename, so putting this out there for now. I will try to help with gardening the tag.

EDIT: The bulk update request #3431 (forum #172543) has been approved by @evazion.

The bulk update request #3431 (forum #172543) has been approved by @evazion.

Frankly I think nothing of value would be lost if the tag were just nuked. I only see three posts that legitimately deserve the tag, and even then it's largely incidental:

• post #341558
• post #542832
• post #559370

BUR #3435 has been approved by @evazion.

remove alias eyes_open -> open_eyes

Removing this alias too.

EDIT: The bulk update request #3435 (forum #172593) has been approved by @evazion.

The bulk update request #3435 (forum #172593) has been approved by @evazion.

Unusually open eyes might be used for both eyes open (hence the plural form of "eye" in that tag), if there were the singular form of that tag, I might also attempt to mark pool #2453 pointless as in this two tag search: komeiji_koishi + unusually_open_eye

Travley_ZeroFaithedHypocrite said:

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I think third eyes should not count towards the tag.
The tag itself is a good idea imo, but it needs to be gardened.

There are a number of other examples besides Takeshi/Brock around. For now, I've managed to trim the first page of results down to legitimate characters.