Mysterious_Uploader said:
Zurreak said:
In this specific case, this is relevant to observation that danbooru generally, but not always, uses the full, official names of copyrights. To simplify what I've said so far, pointing to danbooru's history of usually doing something a certain way is not a valid argument. If it truly should be done that way in this case, you'll be able to explain why.
Danbooru has autocomplete, so people who start to type in "touhou_project" will see "touhou" pop up. No human will be confused about the lack of an exact string "touhou_project" when the tag "touhou" exists.
"Touhou Project" would be a more correct tag.
You had already stated this before I made my previous post. It also is not at all a response to what I said. My point still stands.
Mysterious_Uploader said:
Other imageboards usually follow Danbooru. You shouldn't use those as example.
How does that follow? Of course they still matter and they arguably matter more than any other type of site. You could argue that this isn't the case, but you'd need to provide actual reasoning.
Mysterious_Uploader said:
I don't think we should be reliant on other sites, they can also alias touhou_project to touhou if they don't want to change the tag
Whether they can do an alias or not depends on the website in question. Not everyone's site is designed the same way and not everyone has that functionality. Of course, danbooru as well can make the alias touhou_project -> touhou.
Mysterious_Uploader said:
Touhou Project is a more correct tag, and I'm mainly interested in Danbooru being correct.
Leaving your interests aside, touhou_project is a more official tag, not a more correct one. Don't discard the distinction. On that topic, touhou_hisoutensoku. You mentioned that that's the only proper copyright name of any of the touhou individual games because it's the only one in Japanese. However, by your own reasoning this is incorrect. The proper tag would have to be Touhou_Hisoutensoku_-_Choudokyuu_Ginyoru_no_Nazo_wo_Oe. Incidentally, there's another touhou game tag on danbooru which is also in Japanese, Touhou Gouyoku Ibun which would have to become Touhou_Gouyoku_Ibun_-_Suibotsushita_Chinshuu_Jigoku. Of course these tags aren't preferable over the current ones. However, they are more official and the current tags are only part of the games' real names.
Mysterious_Uploader said:
Sites that aren't well-maintained are probably on the brink of death/don't have much of an userbase, and have a lot other tags that are double/triple.
Sankaku Complex is very badly maintained and has many double/triple/quadruple tags. They're very, very much alive. I don't have exact numbers, but their amount of user activity may even be higher than danbooru's.
Mysterious_Uploader said:
Changing Touhou to Touhou Project wouldn't change much on those sites.
Nor would it change much on this site. It's not about whether it would change much, it's about whether it would do more good than harm (and in the case of danbooru, any good at all). On those other (badly maintained) sites, it would do only harm.
Mysterious_Uploader said:
Delaying this matter would only mean that it would get even more deep-rooted. We have the chance, so we may as well do it.
"May as well do it" dismisses the fact that there is any reason not to do it. By that token, we could also say "We may as well not do it". In fact, "may as well not do it" would be much more accurate, seeing as how the only valid argument in favor of it which still stands is that some people think "touhou project" sounds cooler (Source 1, Source 2). While this is true, it is also the case that some people prefer just "touhou".
I'm not forgetting about the observation that touhou_project is a more official name. However, as I explained before, this observation is not, on its own, an argument in favor of going through with this BUR.