Fiery/Burning/Flaming tags standardization

Currently we have a number of these fairly populated tags. I propose we standardize them under a single adjective and alias the rest, because they all describe the same concept but they're separate because nobody ever bothered to unify them.

I'm more prone towards "burning" myself because "fiery" doesn't seem like a very immediate name for the tags, and "flaming" is a less common synonym of "burning".

Follows the current list of big tags (some additional changes should take place, such as *_sword having to imply *_weapon).

I don't agree with changing the fiery tags, those are for things that are made of fire, not just on fire. I'm less opposed but still not really keen on changing the other ones, either, since the burning tags generally imply passionate flames, and the flaming tags are just normal on fire things, at least as far as I can tell.

And honestly, I've never heard or seen anyone call a sword that was on fire a "burning sword." Words aren't necessarily interchangeable just because they're synonyms.

Well that's why we need to standardize the tags. For example why flaming skull and not burning? What about the hair? There's several examples where the hair is actually burning, like post #3776367, post #3195690, and some of the posts for kagutsuchi_(xenoblade). But then again fiery hair has flaming hair aliased to it. What about burning eye? A good part of those posts are glowing eyes with an added trail effect, they're not literal burning eyes like post #3754610.
burning hand instead has all its variants aliased to it.

I don't have a real preference as for what to name which, I'm ESL so I'll let others decide which one is a better term, but currently these tags are a mess and need some reordering, which is what this thread is about.

For flaming_sword and flaming_skull my guess would be that when burning isn't describing spirit and/or passion, it's referring to something that is being damaged by fire. I.e. a house burns, but a sword doesn't "burn." Looking at it that way, I'm still opposed to renaming flaming_sword, but I don't feel it really makes a difference for flaming_skull vs burning_skull.

For the fiery tags, if there are images in them that don't fit, I would think just cleaning out the inappropriate posts makes more sense than renaming the tags themselves just to retroactively fix mistags. Maybe unalias flaming_hair or create burning_hair for the images where hair is on fire, but not made of fire. On fire vs made of fire seems like a pretty significant difference to me.

Burning_eye seems like just a difference in interpretation, to me, I couldn't really find that many posts that I didn't feel fit the tag.

fiery_wings and fiery_hair include wings/hair made of fire, rather than on fire. "Burning" doesn't describe it at all.

I was going to write up a big response here but @blindVigil pretty much said everything I would have said, so +1 to all of that. To summarize my views:

• "Fiery" tags should be exclusively for things made of fire.

• "Burning" tags make no sense for ordinarily non-burnable items like skulls and and swords. If they're merely engulfed in flames, they should have flaming tags. The flaming sword is a popular weapon in fantasy fiction; a burning sword is probably made from wood, and within minutes it stops being a sword.

• I'd be accepting of a change from burning_eye/burning_eyes/burning_hand to flaming_eye/flaming_eyes/flaming_hand for consistency, but I don't think it's particularly important. The eyes/hands in these posts tend to be emitting magical/nondestructive flames rather than literally burning, but the visual effect is largely the same.

• We could use a burning_hair tag for images where hair is burning, like post #3369302.

I'm strongly inclined to alias all these to flaming_* and be done with it. I agree that burning isn't the best word, since burning is for things being destroyed by fire and that's not what these tags are about. Beyond that, I don't think the difference between fiery and flaming matters very much. Saying that "fiery is for things literally made of fire and flaming is for things giving off fire" is a very subtle distinction and it's too prone to confusion in my view.

BUR #2286 has been approved by @evazion.

create implication flaming_sword -> flaming_weapon
create alias burning_skull -> flaming_skull
remove alias flaming_eye -> burning_eye
remove alias flaming_eyes -> burning_eyes
remove alias fiery_eyes -> burning_eyes
remove alias burning_hands -> burning_hand
remove alias flaming_hand -> burning_hand
remove alias fiery_hand -> burning_hand
remove alias fire_fist -> burning_hand

Reason: I'll just submit the less controversial ones for now. The sword implication is similar to all the other sword -> weapon implications we already have.
For the eyes, it seems "burning eyes" only shows illness-related stuff on google and "flaming" is more used on trope sites and similar, so it should be fine.
First part, because it won't let me submit the create alias as long as the previous ones exist.

Second part:

create alias burning_eye -> flaming_eye

create alias fiery_eye -> flaming_eye


create alias burning_eyes -> flaming_eyes

create alias fiery_eyes -> flaming_eyes


create alias burning_hand -> flaming_hand

create alias fiery_hand -> flaming_hand

create alias fire_fist -> flaming_hand

Not sure if we want to differentiate between hand/hands or merge eye/eyes in this case.

EDIT: The bulk update request #2286 (forum #163192) has been approved by @evazion.

The bulk update request #2286 (forum #163192) has been approved by @evazion.

BUR #2298 has been approved by @evazion.

create alias burning_eye -> flaming_eye
create alias fiery_eye -> flaming_eye
create alias burning_eyes -> flaming_eyes
create alias fiery_eyes -> flaming_eyes
create alias burning_hand -> flaming_hand
create alias fiery_hand -> flaming_hand
create alias fire_fist -> flaming_hand

Reason: Second part

EDIT: The bulk update request #2298 (forum #163327) has been approved by @evazion.

The bulk update request #2298 (forum #163327) has been approved by @evazion.