Donmai

Shades of brown hair

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kuuderes_shadow said:

There are some people who routinely tag monochrome images with the colours that would be there if they weren't monochrome for some reason.

Greyscale/monochrone images shouldn't be tagged with colour tags, period. Except for white background of course.

Benit149 said:

create alias chocolate_hair -> dark_brown_hair

Link to request

I'm not sold on the need for a tag in between black hair and brown hair, whatever you decide to call it. Yes, the line between black and brown can be fuzzy at times, but adding an additional layer of granularity between them doesn't solve the problem -- it makes things worse. Instead of taggers having to decide whether hair is brown or black, the existence of another tag in between suggests that they should instead have to decide whether it's brown or dark brown. Either way, they still have to choose one tag or the other. With every additional shade being considered, the usual inaccuracy due to monitor calibration or subjective interpretation of "dark" only grows more pronounced, making that choice even harder.

-1 for aliasing chocolate_hair to dark_brown_hair, +1 for aliasing to brown_hair.

create alias chocolate_hair -> brown_hair

Link to request

I canceled the other request and went with what you said, Slime.

EDIT: The tag alias chocolate_hair -> brown_hair has conflicting wiki pages. brown_hair should be updated to include information from chocolate_hair if necessary.

EDIT: The bulk update request #1321 (forum #137003) has been approved by @NWF_Renim.

EDIT: The tag alias chocolate_hair -> brown_hair has conflicting wiki pages. brown_hair should be updated to include information from chocolate_hair if necessary.

Updated by DanbooruBot

I actually like the idea of covering the various possible hair/eye color options by creating aliases to a main, well known color.
That way people can find it easier and not end up creating new tags because they can't find the exact color they're seeing.

like strawberry blonde -> blonde hair, platinum blonde -> silver hair, cyan eyes -> blue eyes, etc.
sure there will of course be some cases of confusion, where it depends on the tagger if they think magenta hair is pink or purple.

keonas said:

I actually like the idea of covering the various possible hair/eye color options by creating aliases to a main, well known color.
That way people can find it easier and not end up creating new tags because they can't find the exact color they're seeing.

like strawberry blonde -> blonde hair, platinum blonde -> silver hair, cyan eyes -> blue eyes, etc.
sure there will of course be some cases of confusion, where it depends on the tagger if they think magenta hair is pink or purple.

I don't know about that. What if someone interprets strawberry blonde as pink instead of blonde, or platinum blonde as blonde instead of silver? Aliasing such subjective colors to a single solid color while disregarding another potential solid color would open a can of worms that doesn't need opening when it comes to color subjectivity. I personally have trouble using aqua-related tags due to this problem and fall back on using either green or blue depending on what I see, although I will use aqua if the distinction is not super obvious to me.

What I'm hoping to do with this thread is to trim the fat with established hair color tags, not create new ones for subjective colors.

Bump, we should really sort out all these unnecessary hair colour tags already. I'd just nuke them all myself but I'm sure I would get a lot of people on my case if I did and I would have to re-tag a lot of posts too.

Unbreakable said:

Bump, we should really sort out all these unnecessary hair colour tags already. I'd just nuke them all myself but I'm sure I would get a lot of people on my case if I did and I would have to re-tag a lot of posts too.

From my understanding, there are some colors that are generally accepted for objective reasons, typically when the shade is much lighter than what the default color tag indicates, such as:

light_brown_hair
light_blue_hair
lavender_hair

There's light_green_hair, but it only has 9 posts ATM. Not sure if it should be kept or nuked.

I already went through more ambiguous colored hair tags like auburn hair and maroon hair and added them to the list of disambiguation pages, but they keep getting repopulated by others who aren't aware of the changes. A search of the *_hair tags didn't net me anything else worth worrying about. *_pubic hair tags on the other hand might need some organization...

Benit149 said:

From my understanding, there are some colors that are generally accepted for objective reasons, typically when the shade is much lighter than what the default color tag indicates, such as:

light_brown_hair
light_blue_hair
lavender_hair

There's light_green_hair, but it only has 9 posts ATM. Not sure if it should be kept or nuked.

I already went through more ambiguous colored hair tags like auburn hair and maroon hair and added them to the list of disambiguation pages, but they keep getting repopulated by others who aren't aware of the changes. A search of the *_hair tags didn't net me anything else worth worrying about. *_pubic hair tags on the other hand might need some organization...

In my opinion lavender hair and platinum blonde should be nuked but the first I'm not as strong against, auburn hair and maroon hair as you mentioned should also be kept empty. I have personally never used light blue hair but I've used light brown hair a lot since that one is useful for when the hair is close to blonde/white but still not quite and when it's just a plain, light brown colour.

Unbreakable said:

In my opinion lavender hair and platinum blonde should be nuked but the first I'm not as strong against, auburn hair and maroon hair as you mentioned should also be kept empty. I have personally never used light blue hair but I've used light brown hair a lot since that one is useful for when the hair is close to blonde/white but still not quite and when it's just a plain, light brown colour.

As I see it lavender hair can be easily covered by light purple hair but this was discussed in topic #13860 without a conclusion. Perhaps this should be continued there since it's slowly being broadened to that subject.

Personally I'm against just lumping characters with certain hair colour combinations like brown-red/auburn hair with either subset colours; why should aqua hair cover the green-blue spectrum and not others? I wouldn't mind tagging both brown hair and red hair or something like brownish-red hair or brown-red hair because I think it's just as subjective as the aqua hair tag as the same treatment can be used for it with blue hair and green hair.

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