Artists posting their own art

This thread is somewhat related to forum #2879 would like to share my opinion as well on the current ban(?) on artists posting their own art. Recent case I have in mind is post #324189.

I know posting your own art is frowned upon for reasons of bad judgment but whether someone uploads their own work or others, it still gets the same set of eyes to scrutinize them. They both still get bad records or banned outright if they continuously upload bad art. Even contributor-level users sometimes upload something bad. So I don't see any problems with them uploading their own art if it's good.

Yeah, this isn't DA but if an decent artist becomes a member here (unlikely but still possible) and upload more of his or her art, would they get bad records for it?

It's completely mule-headed to give someone a record for uploading good art, just because that art is their own. Idiotic.

The neg record was not necessary.

However, the rule should stand.

I think that's the rightful thing to do. The alternative would be to delete that good art and that would be worse. A warning should probably be on the upload page to make it completely justifiable.

what about uploading someone else's work. who is currently a member?

Fine in theory, but of course if we just get two friends scheming together to upload each other's work it would sort of defeat the purpose... =P So as usual, all things in moderation or whatever.

Just upload your own art without mentioning it's yours. Derp. If it's good, it will get approved. If it's bad, it will auto-delete.

Of course, your account on here would have to be a different handle than your handle as an artist.

surasshu said:
It's completely mule-headed to give someone a record for uploading good art, just because that art is their own. Idiotic.

I don't think that piece is good art, but leaving that aside, that's not the only thing is uploaded. Do you also think post #324186 or post #324192 are good art? Danbooru-quality art?
Besides, the use of different nicknames smacked of deception (see what abcadeff said), and that would be treated more harshly. Note that the only picture where the two nicknames are linked is the one I commented on, and the connection is via the source url, which can be a simple slip-up if you're using the "upload from url" feature.

Anyway, records are a moderator advisory tool, not some permanent mark of infamy. Since he's taken the warning gracefully, I'm probably going to remove it. But first, I'd like to see him upload something else besides his own art, just to make sure that's not the only reason he's come to danbooru.

LaC said:
Anyway, records are a moderator advisory tool, not some permanent mark of infamy.

...they kind of are.

LaC said:
I don't think that piece is good art, but leaving that aside, that's not the only thing is uploaded. Do you also think post #324186 or post #324192 are good art? Danbooru-quality art?

...and I never did approve those two pics.

LaC said:
Besides, the use of different nicknames smacked of deception (see what abcadeff said), and that would be treated more harshly. Note that the only picture where the two nicknames are linked is the one I commented on, and the connection is via the source url, which can be a simple slip-up if you're using the "upload from url" feature.

He never did try to hide the URL so I doubt he was trying to deceive us.

LaC said:
Anyway, records are a moderator advisory tool, not some permanent mark of infamy.

I guess that true. Other people have use them for different needs (forum #6391).

LaC said:
Since he's taken the warning gracefully, I'm probably going to remove it. But first, I'd like to see him upload something else besides his own art, just to make sure that's not the only reason he's come to danbooru.

...which is why I think you should have sent a message to him first instead of giving him a negative record.

Anyway, I'd like to hear a reason why an artist shouldn't be allowed to post his or her own work. Bad judgment can also come from other posters (which is why we have a moderation system) and uninformed members, artist or not, can easily be informed that this is not a repository for their art (among other things) by giving them a disclaimer.

To me it's the same type of rule as "no furry". We can handle the occasional exception if it's really good, but the rule stands because otherwise the floodgates of Hell will open up on us.

I don't think that piece is good art, but leaving that aside, that's not the only thing is uploaded. Do you also think post #324186 or post #324192 are good art? Danbooru-quality art?

I stand corrected. I probably would've approved the image in the OP, but those certainly don't qualify. As long as we're judging the images themselves by their merit, instead of by who uploaded them! (Except albert, he can upload whatever he wants.)

Hey, this is Sixten (I'm "Pellaeon" on deviantart only because someone else had taken the name "Sixten", and I swear I never tried to be sneaky.) I'm really sorry for all the trouble I've caused, and I'll never post my own stuff again. I've deleted all but three of my uploads. One of the three survivors was uploaded by someone else, and the other two have been favorited. If you want me to delete those as well, let me know and I'll do it.

A few things:

1) Sadly, my original purpose in creating an account was indeed to upload my own work. I saw that someone had uploaded and tagged one of my pictures - a roughly drawn comic with Ayu Tsukimiya in it. My intent was to show that not all my work was as bad as the Ayu comic, and I honestly didn't know that uploading your own work was against the rules.

2) I do want to be a good denizen of Danbooru and I will upload good works that are not by me. I'm scanning pictures from my Moetan II "english study guide" now (art by Atsushi Yoshinari) so I can upload them.

Wtf, your artwork is good, very cute. You really shouldn't be made to delete it. Unless the ones which were deleted aren't as good as the two left.

Mods, can I upload his other art for him or something? Danbooru would be missing out on some quality content otherwise. Or you could just, you know, allow him to post it.

I dont really see any problem with artists posting their own stuff, as long as its not a DA-like image dump.

pellaeon said:
I saw that someone had uploaded and tagged one of my pictures - a roughly drawn comic with Ayu Tsukimiya in it. My intent was to show that not all my work was as bad as the Ayu comic

If you're talking about post #213892, I kind of like it, actually. Everything else you've uploaded is worse (so, technically, you're correct).

abcadeff said:
Wtf, your artwork is good, very cute. You really shouldn't be made to delete it. Unless the ones which were deleted aren't as good as the two left.

Actually, deleting your own uploads is never required. The mods or the queue will take care of deleting what's to be deleted.

However, sixten's artwork is horribly formulaic. He learned to do one generic cute face, and he just does it over and over (look at post #324183); and it has that subtle weeaboo quality where you can tell he was aiming for "kawaii", but got "retarded" instead (seriously, look at that post).
It's a pity, because he seems to have potential: he could do much better if he didn't try so hard to be cute (and drew some fucking noses). Look at how much better Haruhi and Kyon look in post #213892.

Mods, can I upload his other art for him or something? Danbooru would be missing out on some quality content otherwise. Or you could just, you know, allow him to post it.

If you uploaded it, it'd skip the queue and get directly approved. Judging by what I've seen so far, I don't think that's for the best. Perhaps you can post links to some of his better works in this thread, and we can discuss them. It's already turned into a "meet the artist" thing anyway, we might as well throw in some constructive criticism.

K.

Well, I think posting own art only should be frowned upon if the art sucks. If the person draws like Reiq, or like Jaeden (from Autumn Pixels), I don't see any reason to give a neg record to them, since their art would be awesome, or even considered professional, and they know it. Would you reject Noizi Ito's art if she was registered at Danbooru? I don't think so.

Aline said:
Well, I think posting own art only should be frowned upon if the art sucks. If the person draws like Reiq, or like Jaeden (from Autumn Pixels), I don't see any reason to give a neg record to them, since their art would be awesome, or even considered professional, and they know it. Would you reject Noizi Ito's art if she was registered at Danbooru? I don't think so.

Well, the thing about that is that professional artists have their own site and following, they wouldn't need to register on Danbooru to share their work.

Another suggestion: Join pixiv if you want to share your art, if it's truly danbooru quality (and of a subject of interest) it will likely make it onto here from there via other users. There's certainly no quality baseline on pixiv, and I've seen a couple western artists on there, so it's not like you have to be Japanese... although it helps to have a basic understand of the language when tagging and navigating the site.