Blocked for flagging post

"Blocked: Frivolous flagging (post #331644 with reason "Fuck no"). This is in line with the previous complaints and blocks of him, so the ban will be extended."

Should I have been more verbose and said something like "Even though this post is made by a japanese artist and somehow passed the moderation queue it is still a DeviantArt quality post and should be deleted per the Danbooru standard of quality."?
Or perhaps the problem was that I left a personal note of disgust with "Fuck no" instead of just generically saying "bad". If that is the case I apologize but I have flagged various other posts I think should be considered for deletion before without paying much attention to the "Why should this post be deleted?" field. Some got deleted, some didn't. Isn't that how it's supposed to work? I didn't misuse the feature, I think.

Regardless, I would have never thought flagging a post would ever warrant me a negative record, much less a ban, much less a six-month-long ban. Honestly.

Could someone please unblock my main account?

Also, sorry to make yet another alt account but it was the only way to post in the forum.

"Fuck no" isn't a reason to flag something.
At least post a good reason for the flag (ex: bad quality etc).
Personally, I don't like the quality of that pic, but isn't worth of deletion either.

memegui3 said: Also, sorry to make yet another alt account but it was the only way to post in the forum.

You know, generally, if you get banned you're not *supposed* to be able to post. You can always go to the IRC chan or email Albert or something instead.

memegui3 said:
"Blocked: Frivolous flagging (post #331644 with reason "Fuck no"). This is in line with the previous complaints and blocks of him, so the ban will be extended."

Should I have been more verbose and said something like "Even though this post is made by a japanese artist and somehow passed the moderation queue it is still a DeviantArt quality post and should be deleted per the Danbooru standard of quality."?
Or perhaps the problem was that I left a personal note of disgust with "Fuck no" instead of just generically saying "bad". If that is the case I apologize but I have flagged various other posts I think should be considered for deletion before without paying much attention to the "Why should this post be deleted?" field. Some got deleted, some didn't. Isn't that how it's supposed to work? I didn't misuse the feature, I think.

Regardless, I would have never thought flagging a post would ever warrant me a negative record, much less a ban, much less a six-month-long ban. Honestly.

Could someone please unblock my main account?

Also, sorry to make yet another alt account but it was the only way to post in the forum.

So:

1. Flagging is a way of communication with mods who then have to review to queue and assess whether the post is actually deletion-worthy. "Fuck no" means nothing except that you don't consider it necessary to explain once _you_ decide the pic needs to go. And we bastard mods like to go on power trips for trivial reasons, so you really don't want to annoy us.

2. Because of 1., and the fact that reviewing the queue is a metric fuckload of work to which you just added without bothering to explain, yes, frivolous tagging can get you a record.

3. It's long because it's not your first ban, nor your first negative record. You have score of -6. What did you expect, a pat on the head? Note that I explained the reason in the very line you quoted.

4. If you're banned, you're not supposed to post, as jxh2154 said. Because you're not actually trying to hide it, I won't count that against you, but technically that's evading a ban. Not necessarily a good idea.

5. Unblocking. You can send me a mail once you have clocked a week. Right now, you're at mere 3 days, that much you can easily get for being too stupid to breathe and commenting at the same time. For such an old patron as yourself, I don't consider it sufficient.

If you think I should be banned for a week, ban me for a week. That I would understand and abide by, not this charade. Six months, really, what's with that.

I have pondered this matter, and I have reached the conclusion that memegui is a real American hero, while 葉月 is a crazy Danish pastry with a heart of gold.

LaC said:
I have pondered this matter, and I have reached the conclusion that memegui is a real American hero, while 葉月 is a crazy Danish pastry with a heart of gold.

Whatever a "real American hero" is worth, I'd still rather have the Danish.

memegui3 said:
If you think I should be banned for a week, ban me for a week. That I would understand and abide by, not this charade. Six months, really, what's with that.

No, I banned you for that much because I thought you should be banned for that much. You're confusing "I didn't really want to ban you for more than a week" with "You may try appealing after a week". How many points do you think you need to collect before I'm allowed to ban you for longer?

I think your reasoning is flawed, your treating the user record like an actual criminal record. What, whatever thing I do wrong from now on, however how minor and no matter how long from now will always carry that baggage? And the block time will keep increasing? Six months is already completely unreasonable, what's next, a year long ban?
This particular one I think is beyond unreasonable, it was such a small thing and I obviously didn't do it in bad faith. Why couldn't you have simply sent me a PM saying "That was naughty thing you did, don't do it again." to which I'd reply "Sorry, thank you for warning me, I'll be sure to not do it again."
The other records were from two months ago, I've "been good" since then and yet you're treating me like I did them yesterday or like I've been disruptive to the site.

You, sir, are one of the most complained-about users. And you've got plenty of warnings already. Seriously, do I need to present a formal proposal of ban which you then get to sign off before I'm allowed to implement it? At least try to keep from being demanding while you're trying to convince me I should really lift your ban (hint).

Oh, really, I'm much complained about? Could you be a little more vague? I'm doing my best to contribute to the site and it's community in every way I can, unlike what seems to be the accepted way of acting (judging from the people who receive privileged/contributor status) which is to not post comments (mods HATE comments), not discuss in the forum, not contribute to the wiki, not tagging for posts other than theirs and only upload as many unobjectionable posts as possible. I think I'm entitled to some mistakes.
Convince you to lift my ban? All I can say is that giving me a six month ban for a completely trivial thing such as an inappropriate flag when I've been "behaving" and have apologized is completely uncalled for.

Actually, a few days ago, I was thinking of giving a positive record to memegui for posting an interesting/entertaining comment. Maybe, if I had, we wouldn't be in this situation now... :-/

Regarding the flagging that got him banned, it wasn't entirely frivolous. I wouldn't have deleted that picture, but I had my doubts on whether it was appropriate for Danbooru. The coloring, in particular, is really amateurish. At least memegui can see that.

In fact, I'm more concerned about those users who see nothing bad at all in that picture. If we were to use the iron fist, it is them who should be rounded up and slaughtered like cattle. It gives me pause to see the poor memegui banished while those people roam the site freely. It makes him look like a martyr.

I don't see any problem with flagging posts that have bypassed the moderation queue, but "Poorly shaded" takes about as long to type as "Fuck No," and it's a lot more descriptive.

memegui3 said: I think your reasoning is flawed, your treating the user record like an actual criminal record.

That's a pretty accurate comparison, actually.

memegui3 said:
...which is to not post comments (mods HATE comments), not discuss in the forum, not contribute to the wiki, not tagging for posts other than theirs and only upload as many unobjectionable posts as possible.

Comments, wiki posting, and posting are all things that can get you promoted, but frivolous comments, unilateral wiki policy making, and repeatedly posting things that don't pass muster (see Salarta's plight) will all actively hurt you. I personally think you're doing much better now than you were a few months ago when you gathered most of your -6 rating, since you've learned a bit more of what is desired.

"Fuck no" is a pretty asinine flag though, and while I think 葉月 might have been a bit harsh in blocking you, he was probably right in giving you a record for it. I also think that while that post is not something I would have posted, I think it's far enough from the grey area to keep once accepted, and not delete it.

memegui3 said:
I think your reasoning is flawed, your treating the user record like an actual criminal record.

Why exactly shouldn't I? A person with an actual criminal record also can get better and yet feel the consequences of past actions, your point being?

memegui3 said:
Oh, really, I'm much complained about? Could you be a little more vague?

I have received numerous complaints about you in private communication channels, including from janitors. I'm not going to share it with you, because they are private, but that influences my outlook on you significantly.

I'm doing my best to contribute to the site and it's community in every way I can, unlike what seems to be the accepted way of acting (judging from the people who receive privileged/contributor status) which is to not post comments (mods HATE comments), not discuss in the forum, not contribute to the wiki, not tagging for posts other than theirs and only upload as many unobjectionable posts as possible.

No. You've just shown that you completely don't get it. Mods hate BAD comments, abusive threads and unilateral wiki edits, and you have done all of them.

I think I'm entitled to some mistakes.
Convince you to lift my ban? All I can say is that giving me a six month ban for a completely trivial thing such as an inappropriate flag when I've been "behaving" and have apologized is completely uncalled for.

And I think I'm entitled to my own discretion in forming my opinion about you. What you may do is to try to convince me that was I wrong. What you may not (well, you can do that, but good luck with having your ban lifted) is to demand that I convince you that I'm not wrong.

Oh, and just for the record: the fact you flagged that pic the way you did was pointed out to me by another person.

And just to make it clear: the actual pic in question I consider completely inessential to the discussion, insomuch as it's not particularly good, but far from being so horrible as to warrant immediate deletion without any further explanation. It's about memegui's behaviour, not about that post.

葉月 said:
And I think I'm entitled to my own discretion in forming my opinion about you. What you may do is to try to convince me that was I wrong. What you may not is to demand that I convince you that I'm not wrong.

I honestly have no idea what you expect me to say. Let me say again that I'm sorry for flagging that post in that fashion, but submitting for deletion review isn't the same as immediate deletion, just that when I flagged it, I thought it so bad, much worse than posts of mine and others that didn't pass moderation, that I didn't think it warranted justification, that might have been wrong but in my defense nowhere on the site is there a reference to flagging etiquette and it's common to flag posts with just the reason "bad".
What else can I say, yes, I think you are definitely wrong in giving me such a long ban merely because of records from months ago, you'll notice that all my negative records (except the first which is dumb) are all from different reasons (forum, comments, wiki) which means I'm not a repeat offender in those things, when something I do bad is pointed out to me, I usually stop. And this minor offense, what's the point in, out of the blue, keeping me from adding tags or posting comments for such a long time, when I haven't been doing anything horribly wrong as of late (that I am aware). I think you're blowing this way out of proportion. A shorter ban, one month tops, I would understand but this is just ridiculous.

Memegui, please do one of the below, I don't honestly care which.

A) STFU

B) GTFO

God damn this guy loves digging his own grave, huh?